dkharty Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 W/R at matchpoints in a weak field you hold: ♠KQJxx ♥KQJ ♦Kxx ♣xx Pass, 3♣, pass to you. Anything to say here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I know I'd pass opp/ myself but I know people opposite whom I wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I feel I have to act, partner could easily have 10xx, xxx, AQxx, QJx which will make 3N. I would double rather than bid 3♠, 3N is a lot more likely to make than 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkharty Posted March 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I feel I have to act, partner could easily have 10xx, xxx, AQxx, QJx which will make 3N. I would double rather than bid 3♠, 3N is a lot more likely to make than 4♠. :) Er...sorry if my original post wasn't clear...partner opened 3♣, so he is fairly unlikely to hold that hand :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Pass, there is no alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 You need aces and club honors. This hand is exactly the opposite of one where you want to stretch to bid 3NT. xxxxx Axx Axx Kx will often just be a claimer whereas the given hand will usually have no real play at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcohio Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Pass... Almost a 3NT, but just not quite right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Weird. I thought it was 3♣ on my right and I was still debating between pass, 3♠, and dbl. This seems like an easy pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 W/R at matchpoints in a weak field you hold: ♠KQJxx ♥KQJ ♦Kxx ♣xx Pass, 3♣, pass to you. Anything to say here? Normally I'd pass, but against some opponents I might try 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 W/R at matchpoints in a weak field you hold: ♠KQJxx ♥KQJ ♦Kxx ♣xx Pass, 3♣, pass to you. Anything to say here? Normally I'd pass, but against some opponents I might try 2♣. I know that opposite my regular partner I want to bid 2♣, but I am afraid the rules prevent me from doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 It's a weak field.. you have to bid because it's possible other tables won't be facing a 3C opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I feel I have to act, partner could easily have 10xx, xxx, AQxx, QJx which will make 3N. I would double rather than bid 3♠, 3N is a lot more likely to make than 4♠.:) Er...sorry if my original post wasn't clear...partner opened 3♣, so he is fairly unlikely to hold that hand ;) Sorry, easy pass, give partner a nice hand like AKJxxxx and out, what are you making ? If he has 10xx, xx, x, AKxxxxx and 4♠ is on, unlucky, far more often he'll have x, xx, xxx, AKxxxxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Easy pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkharty Posted March 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 When the hand came up I thought it was a wtp pass...+130 was a poor matchpoint result, since almost every other pair was in either 3NT or 4♠ making. Partner had a normal hand, something like ♠Txx ♥x ♦xx ♣AQJxxxx, and it takes the opps finding a club ruff on the opening lead to beat 4♠; there were several ways for them to misdefend and let 3NT through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 I am at least the third to misread the bidding... Amazing. As it is, it is a wtp pass. Had the bidding been pass 3♣ however, this had been ugly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 there were several ways for them to misdefend and let 3NT through. so they get two chances to always beat 3NT, either red suit lead or ♥+♦switch, and then you're still on a club finesse, and you're upset that you went +130? Even a spade lead and a ♦ switch could be enough to beat this. If the club hook is off, ANY lead will beat it. seems sort of silly. They could even duck ♠ twice and then you'll have communication problems. It seems to me that 3NT only makes because of a miracle layout and nobody in the room defending like a human being. I know this is resulting, but the fact that no game makes isnt enough to convince you that this is perfectly fine? Getting to 4♠ is impossible anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 you're upset that you went +130? Nothing has suggested to me that the opening poster is upset. He took an action that seemed right to him, it didn't work out well on the given hand, and he's here asking for a "sanity check" to make sure he shouldn't be adjusting his judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 It sounded to me like he was very unhappy getting few matchpoints and was looking for excuses to bid more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 W/R at matchpoints in a weak field you hold: ♠KQJxx ♥KQJ ♦Kxx ♣xx Pass, 3♣, pass to you. Anything to say here? Yes I have something to say and that would be "good luck partner" :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkharty Posted March 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 It sounded to me like he was very unhappy getting few matchpoints and was looking for excuses to bid more.No, TimG is correct. I wasn't upset at all about our result on the board...I was simply suprised more people weren't in the same contract, and as TimG suggested, I was curious whether A) my initial judgment was correct, and B) whether the strength of the field would/should factor into the decision about whether to take any action with this hand or not. I've been on both sides of the "rub of the green" hands too many times to get too worked up about any single result, as I'm sure you have too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 My opinion regarding strength of field is that you should not pay much attention to it. If you're playing in a weak field, the purpose is probably to practice for "real" events rather than beat the field. You'll get better practice in if you do the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Really easy pass. Might make, might go off one. If partner has anything like a favorable-vulnerability 3C bid, 3NT is gonna be slightly worse than 0%. R/W it's actually an interesting question - between seeing if partner has 3 spades or just gambling on 3NT. Edited to add: I see you've posted the hand. Even in 2nd seat that's a super-max for favorable 3C and you STILL need misdefence to make anything. If partner's a trick worse that that you wouldn't have a prayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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