lead problem MP against 6nt

[Mbodell]

[hv=d=s&v=e&s=st42hkt752d8c6542]133|100|Scoring: MP

Opponent's bid unopposed, starting with LHO:

 

1♦ - 1♥

1♠ - 1nt

4♣* - 4♥* ; kc gerber, 0 or 3 A

6nt[/hv]

 

What do you lead?

[gordontd]

♠2

[Free]

♣6

[gwnn]

♣6

[nige1]

[hv=d=s&v=e&s=st42hkt752d8c6542]133|100|Scoring: MP

Opponent's bid unopposed, starting with LHO:

1♦ - 1♥

1♠ - 1nt

4♣* - 4♥* ; kc gerber, 0 or 3 A

6nt

What do you lead?[/hv]

IMO ♥ = 10, ♠ = 9, ♣ = 5, ♦ = 2, hoping dummy is something like

♠ AKQx ♥A ♦ KQJTxx ♣ Ax or

♠ AKQx ♥Q ♦ AKQJxx ♣ Ax

[Codo]

♣ 5

[Fluffy]

♥ can be the winner, also a club, but I don't expect a spade to ever work.

 

I'd go with a club.

[whereagles]

gonzalo, from LHO's bidding, he seems to have some 6-4 with solid diamonds. If a heart is the winner, I would say it's out of pure luck... More likely, you'll find them Ax opposite Qxxx and declarer will have an easy time ducking it.

 

I wouldn't go with a club because pard didn't double the g-bid... Since a diamond seems a bit pointless, that leaves a spade. It will look silly if they're AJxx K9x, but other than that it seems ok. It's even the book lead: against misfitted 2 suiters, lead through dummy's 2nd suit.

[mich-b]

[hv=d=s&v=e&s=st42hkt752d8c6542]133|100|Scoring: MP

Opponent's bid unopposed, starting with LHO:

1♦ - 1♥

1♠ - 1nt

4♣* - 4♥* ; kc gerber, 0 or 3 A

6nt

What do you lead?[/hv]

IMO ♥ = 10, ♠ = 9, ♣ = 5, ♦ = 2, hoping dummy is something like

♠ AKQx ♥A ♦ KQJTxx ♣ Ax or

♠ AKQx ♥Q ♦ AKQJxx ♣ Ax

If you think that is what dummy will look like (and I agree) , why did you give a 9 to the ♠lead? a ♥ looks much more promissing.

 

Your example hands are worth a 2♣ opening , but perhaps LHO belongs to the camp which doesnt like to open 2♣ when they have 2 suits to show.

[Fluffy]

gonzalo, from LHO's bidding, he seems to have some 6-4 with solid diamonds. If a heart is the winner, I would say it's out of pure luck... More likely, you'll find them Ax opposite Qxxx and declarer will have an easy time ducking it.

 

I wouldn't go with a club because pard didn't double the g-bid... Since a diamond seems a bit pointless, that leaves a spade. It will look silly if they're AJxx K9x, but other than that it seems ok. It's even the book lead: against misfitted 2 suiters, lead through dummy's 2nd suit.

what kind of spades do you expect from LHO who has gone to slam opposite 6-9 hand?

[nige1]

[hv=d=s&v=e&s=st42hkt752d8c6542]133|100|Scoring: MP

Opponent's bid unopposed, starting with LHO:

1♦ - 1♥

1♠ - 1nt

4♣* - 4♥* ; kc gerber, 0 or 3 A

6nt

What do you lead?[/hv]

IMO ♥ = 10, ♠ = 9, ♣ = 5, ♦ = 2, hoping dummy is something like

♠ AKQx ♥A ♦ KQJTxx ♣ Ax or

♠ AKQx ♥Q ♦ AKQJxx ♣ Ax

If you think that is what dummy will look like (and I agree) , why did you give a 9 to the ♠lead?  a ♥ looks much more promising.Your example hands are worth a 2♣ opening , but perhaps LHO belongs to the camp which doesnt like to open 2♣ when they have 2 suits to show.

Because, as others point out, we're just guessing about opponents' holdings (I can't imagine hands that I would bid that way). For example if Whereagles is right that dummy is 4261, say, then a ♥ lead may not work. Also, if dummy is much weaker and flatter so that declarer-play is less straightforward, then a ♠ lead should be safe and may even disrupt communications. I still think a ♥ lead is our best bet but anything could be right :P

[hotShot]

I don't like ♣ because the opp who is more likely to have honors there is behind partner.

I hope that dummy or my partner will play ♥ to my king.

I don't think opps can avoid a potential ♠ loser unless RHO has running ♣ (Holding ♥KTxxx I don't expect ♥ to run.)

I think I'll start with ♦ as i expect partner to have 4-5 of them, hoping they not as solid as some think.

[whereagles]

what kind of spades do you expect from LHO who has gone to slam opposite 6-9 hand?

Expect dummy's hand to look something like

 

AKxx

Q

AKQxxx

Ax

 

so a spade seems like a good lead to me, once pard didn't double clubs.

[OleBerg]

♥K wtp?

[nige1]

Expect dummy's hand to look something like

AKxx

Q

AKQxxx

Ax

so a spade seems like a good lead to me, once pard didn't double clubs.

A ♠ lead may set up more undertricks but if you trust RHO to count his aces correctly, then cashing the first three ♥ tricks should produce a fair score :)

[whereagles]

look, you can cook up some more appropriate hands yourself, no? :)

[nige1]

look, you can cook up some more appropriate hands yourself, no? :)

[hv=n=sjxhqxxxdxxxckxxx&w=sxxxxhjxdatxcqjt3&e=stxxhktxxxdxcxxxx&s=sakq9haxdkqjxxxca]399|300|OK :) here is a plausible layout where a ♠ is the only lead that defeats 6N. It disrupts declarer's communications :)[/hv]

[Mbodell]

We were given misinformation in the auction, and told the declarer had 1 ace, which he corrected after I made the opening club lead and dummy was tabled.

 

Dummy was AKxx 8 AKxxxx AK and partner has AJ9 of hearts and a heart lead and continue leads to down 4. On the club lead opponents get 4 clubs (declarer has QJxx), 4 spades (declarer has Qxx), and 2 diamonds for down 2.

 

I was thinking that a heart lead I might make with the information 0 or 3 aces, but that it seemed unadvised if he's showing 1 ace. Therefore the question was damages.

 

It was a pair game and the MP between +200 and +400 was probably not going to matter, but I wanted to see if the heart lead is reasonable with just your hand and the auction, obviously it is mandatory after seeing the dummy.

[nige1]

We were given misinformation in the auction, and told the declarer had 1 ace, which he corrected after I made the opening club lead and dummy was tabled. Dummy was AKxx 8 AKxxxx AK and partner has AJ9 of hearts and a heart lead and continue leads to down 4.  On the club lead opponents get 4 clubs (declarer has QJxx), 4 spades (declarer has Qxx), and 2 diamonds for down 2. I was thinking that a heart lead Imight make with the information 0 or 3 aces, but that it seemed unadvised if he's showing 1 ace.  Therefore the question was damages. It was a pair game and the MP between +200 and +400 was probably not going to matter, but I wanted to see if the heart lead is reasonable with just your hand and the auction, obviously it is mandatory after seeing the dummy.

If the director included Mich-b and me in a poll, then he might conclude that you were damaged.

[Fluffy]

yeah so so very damaged, the opponents had a missunderstanding that put them in -200 or -400 against nothing you were so very damaged O_o