Partner Leaped

[CSGibson]

[hv=d=e&v=e&s=sak4h987dj63ca873]133|100|Scoring: MP

(2♥)-4♦*-(p)-?

 

4♦ was leaping michaels[/hv]

 

Matchpoints in a weak field. 4 diamonds is leaping michaels, showing a good hand with 5+ spades & 5+ diamonds.

 

1) What would your plan be to bid this hand with a good partner, but no discussion about follow-ups for leaping michaels?

 

2) How would you bid this with your own practical follow-ups to leaping michaels?

[Fluffy]

5♠ comes to mind first asking for heart control, but depends on what kind of partner we have, could play slam off 2 keycards opposite ♠QJ10xx ♥x ♦KQ10xx ♣KQ

 

 

But if partner is serious 5♠ it is.

[jjbrr]

My style of leaping Michaels makes this nearly a grand force opposite a first round ♥ control. I would just bid 4♥ and bid 4NT over 4♠. I haven't discussed this with anyone but I hope it's RKC.

[aguahombre]

doubt I would have this hand, opposite a leaping Mike. But if I did, partner would have all the other controls I need. FLuff's hand example is not good enough. Good old blackwood is fine. The only time this would be wrong would be QJXXXX XX AKQXX -. Will take my chances against that one.

[whereagles]

In a weak field it's gonna be (2♥)-2♠-(pass)-4♠ at other tables. I'll just bid that as well.

[kenrexford]

5♥. This asks for heart control and agrees spades (because it bypasses 5♦). If partner has no heart control, 5♠ is the max. If he has second-round heart control, 6♠ if the max. If he has first-round heart control, he answers modified RKCB-style (skipping 5♠).

 

CAVEAT: He does not show the heart Ace as a key card, because the mere fact that he is answering means that he has the Ace or a void, and the fact that I bid 5♥ means that I really don't care which it is.

 

CAVEAT2: The RKCB is semi-6KCB (show the diamond King as a "replacement" key card for the skipped heart Ace).

[rogerclee]

What hand with no heart control is worth 4D? QJTxxx xx AKQxx void? I'll take my chances with 4H and then keycard.

[Fluffy]

What hand with no heart control is worth 4D? QJTxxx xx AKQxx void? I'll take my chances with 4H and then keycard.

I was thinking of ♠QJ10xx ♥xx ♦AKQxx ♦K

 

maybe adding ♥Q as well.

 

 

BTW: In my meta greements 4♥ sets diamonds as trumps since it is the last suit bid naturarilly. Not like a big problem, asking about ♦AKQ sounds better than asking about ♠Q only.

[aguahombre]

What hand with no heart control is worth 4D? QJTxxx xx AKQxx void? I'll take my chances with 4H and then keycard.

I wonder if 4NT directly should just be 6-key RKC, leaving 4H for something else, such as "answer keys only if you have first or second round control of hearts" (starting with 4NT as first step with heart control, but bidding 4S without).

 

I don't claim this is already our agreement, but maybe it should be? Would like input.

[rogerclee]

What hand with no heart control is worth 4D? QJTxxx xx AKQxx void? I'll take my chances with 4H and then keycard.

I wonder if 4NT directly should just be 6-key RKC, leaving 4H for something else, such as "answer keys only if you have first or second round control of hearts" (starting with 4NT as first step with heart control, but bidding 4S without).

I don't think so because 6-key RKC is most helpful when you have a double fit and both of you have length, but that is not really the case here. The person trying for slam could easily be doing it based on shortness in the second suit and long trumps, in which case he might not even care about the king in the second suit let alone the queen.

[ONEferBRID]

[hv=d=e&v=e&s=sak4h987dj63ca873]133|100|Scoring: MP

(2♥)-4♦*-(p)-?

 

4♦ was leaping michaels[/hv]

 

Matchpoints in a weak field.  4 diamonds is leaping michaels, showing a good hand with 5+ spades & 5+ diamonds. 

 

1) What would your plan be to bid this hand with a good partner, but no discussion about follow-ups for leaping michaels?

 

2) How would you bid this with your own practical follow-ups to leaping michaels?

Here was a suggestion by Ole Berg for follow-ups to Leaping Michaels back in 6/9/2009 in reply to a thread ( I think entitled" 5-0-1-7 ") by C S Gibson ( sorry, I didn't copy the URL ... and I don't know how to find it ).

 

His suggestion for this hand was for Advancer replies with a slammish hand:

-- lowest level available bid of their suits be agreement for "our" major;

-- higher level available bid of theor suits be agreement for "our" minor.

 

For this hand:

4H! = lowest level cuebid of their suits: agree ♠ , slammish and

5C! = highest level " " " " agree ♦, slammish.

 

(2H) - 4D! - ( p ) - 4H!

 

Now 4NT by Overcaller is RKC for Sp.

[CSGibson]

for the record, I just blasted 6 spades to avoid any of those complications (and because in this field stretching for 7 would be wrong). Partner had:

 

[hv=s=sj97xxhaxdakxxxxc]133|100|[/hv].

 

Do you think that's good enough for a leaping mike, generally, or was it a stretch?

 

Anyway, making 7 when both Q's were doubleton, only people in 6.

[MarkDean]

for the record, I just blasted 6 spades to avoid any of those complications (and because in this field strectching for 7 would be wrong). Partner had:

 

[hv=s=sj97xxhaxdakxxxxc]133|100|[/hv].

 

Do you think that's good enough for a leaping mike, generally, or was it a stretch?

 

Anyway, making 7 when both Q's were doubleton, only people in 6.

I would certainly have bid as your partner did, however it sounds from this thread as though I am more aggressive with leaping michaels than others.

[jdonn]

Not to be late but this is part of why I like cuebid is Michaels to go with Leaping Michaels, then you know this auction is a good hand and going toward slam is easy.

[peachy]

I play Leaping Michaels a little stronger than what the given hand was. And would have taken us to slam with the advancer's hand. Maybe not found grand though if continuations were not discussed and maybe not even bid six if the agreed strength can be just normal Michaels strength.