CSGibson Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=sjt3hj9da876cq954]133|100|Scoring: MP(P)-P-(3♦)-X,(P)-?[/hv] Matchpoints. What is your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 pass, auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 easiest pass ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 pass, auto ditto yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I'd likely pass R/W at IMPs rather than gamble 3NT, so here at MP W/W this is auto-pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted March 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 No one is bothered by the fact that you have 1 trick on defense, along with maybe some helping quacks for partner? Well, obviously not, since you're all passing pretty quickly, maybe this isn't the problem I thought it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 No one is bothered by the fact that you have 1 trick on defense, along with maybe some helping quacks for partner? Well, obviously not, since you're all passing pretty quickly, maybe this isn't the problem I thought it was. Well, that thought did cross my mind when I looked at this - we have one trick in the form of the diamond ace - that the opening bidder already knew wasn't in his hand - and some quacks. However, I don't think bidding anything looks very attractive either. True they might make the doubled contract - which IMO is more of a consideration if it is IMPs - or we might make something - but on balance gut feel is that we're more likely looking at a plus by passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 4♣ by me. I got the feeling pard doubled with a min 4414, so passing here seems rather dangerous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I wouldn't bid 4♣ - if partner doesn't have four, it will be horrible; if he does have four it will stll be problematic, given all the small diamonds I have to deal with; and even if it makes it may not be a particualrly good score. If I did bid, it would be 3NT. That may make if LHO has no side entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I do not think this is any auto pass at all, in fact would bid 4C. This is a 3rd seat 3D which can be any hand kind of, and my defensive options do not look so awesome. Mind you this is also true of the offensive potential. Is my 8D going to offer me some uppercut, I think not. Passing means I need to find a great lead and I may have only 1 chance to push a card through dummy. If partner holds C length defending is even worse. Offensively I have the lead giving me an opportunity to develop some source of tricks. 130 is still better than 100 and if I am scoring 300 from this double I can say sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I do not think this is any auto pass at all, in fact would bid 4C. This is a 3rd seat 3D which can be any hand kind of, and my defensive options do not look so awesome. Mind you this is also true of the offensive potential. Is my 8D going to offer me some uppercut, I think not. Passing means I need to find a great lead and I may have only 1 chance to push a card through dummy. If partner holds C length defending is even worse. Offensively I have the lead giving me an opportunity to develop some source of tricks. 130 is still better than 100 and if I am scoring 300 from this double I can say sorry. You're sitting under the preempter, not over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Agree with Clee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I wouldn't bid 4♣ - if partner doesn't have four, it will be horrible; if he does have four it will stll be problematic, given all the small diamonds I have to deal with; and even if it makes it may not be a particualrly good score. If I did bid, it would be 3NT. That may make if LHO has no side entry. Yes. But pard has short diamonds, so he's likely to be 4441 or 5431. 4♣ rates to be good opposite all those shapes except, of course, 5413/4513. Also, having short diamonds, pard is more likely to have doubled on marginal values, say 11-12 hcp, in which case all it takes for opener to make 3♦X is finding dummy with a simple AQ/A. Anyway, this is clearly one of those post-preempt situations where it's better be lucky than good :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 4♣ by me. I got the feeling pard doubled with a min 4414, so passing here seems rather dangerous... partner shouldn't be using a mininal 4414 X of 1♦ to whack 3♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Against a real bridge player its a pass, but against a rock who would always have 7♦ for a 3♦ bid I think 3NT is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Pass seems like the most likely plus score. I do not wish to play in a 3-3 ♠ fit or a 4-3 ♣ fit. Taking 5 tricks in ♦ seems considerably more likely than taking 9 tricks in NT. Pass is auto only in the sense that all the other alternatives are downright awful. Pass is still ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 4♣ by me. I got the feeling pard doubled with a min 4414, so passing here seems rather dangerous... partner shouldn't be using a mininal 4414 X of 1♦ to whack 3♦ Disagree. Dbl is mandatory with 4414 and 11 hcp. Just my opinion, but oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 4♣ by me. I got the feeling pard doubled with a min 4414, so passing here seems rather dangerous... partner shouldn't be using a mininal 4414 X of 1♦ to whack 3♦ Disagree. Dbl is mandatory with 4414 and 11 hcp. Just my opinion, but oh well. Opposite a passed hand? Not so mandatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Not so mandatory? Agree. But possible? Definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 I bid 3N. Partner had: [hv=s=sakqxhaxxxdxcakjt]133|100|[/hv] and passed (more reasonable given that I was a passed hand). 6 clubs makes on a reasonable line of play, 3 diamonds goes off 3, (opener is 1-3-7-2, his partener having KQ of hearts), but was usually set 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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