dcohio Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sak6hqtdk9652c986]133|100|Scoring: MP(p)-p-(p)-?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 And I am not passing a 1S response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 1♦. What's so bad about this hand that you want to pass a probable + score? If you played a strong club system with 10-15 limited openers, or a 10-12 mini-NT there could be a case for pass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Obv open, why wouldn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Pearson be damned. I open because it's an opening hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcohio Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I was just checking that I wasn't insane. I opened, opps bid and make 3H... pass goes for a top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I was just checking that I wasn't insane. I opened, opps bid and make 3H... pass goes for a top. :D Game of percentages obv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I would pass. This hand has an insufficient Casino count, (or Pearson count if you like). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I would pass. This hand has an insufficient Casino count, (or Pearson count if you like). 12 + 3 = 15? Looks like enough? And it even has good controls, ie no jacks. How could this problem be here? Open your opening bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I would pass. This hand has an insufficient Casino count, (or Pearson count if you like). 12 + 3 = 15? Looks like enough? And it even has good controls, ie no jacks. How could this problem be here? Open your opening bids. Qx = 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I would pass. This hand has an insufficient Casino count, (or Pearson count if you like). 12 + 3 = 15? Looks like enough? And it even has good controls, ie no jacks. How could this problem be here? Open your opening bids. Qx = 2?If you are downgrading for that you are surely upgrading for the heart ten, the 5 card suit, and the great controls. But anyway casino/pearson points (aka rule of 15) specifically mention high card points at any links I can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 +1 for opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I might pass if I had to open 1♦, but I would open a 12-14 1N. Can opps come in at the 2 level ? The reduced frequency of opps being able to act is significant here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I might pass if I had to open 1♦, but I would open a 12-14 1N. Can opps come in at the 2 level ? The reduced frequency of opps being able to act is significant here. Now we are talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 And I am not passing a 1S response. And I am passing 1S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Hi, the Rule of 15 is for marginal openers, you have 12HCP, AK in a suit,why should this be a marginal opener? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 The Pearson points/ Rule of 15 is meant for borderline opening hands. This is not borderline: has adequate QT, adequate HCP, 5-card suit. Even if you thought this was borderline, it still fulfills Pearson requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I would open this hand in 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th seat... Pearson has nothing to do with this imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmilne Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 poll option should be "bridge be damned, i PASS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 1♦. What's so bad about this hand that you want to pass a probable + score? If you played a strong club system with 10-15 limited openers, or a 10-12 mini-NT there could be a case for pass... exactly. I'd pass in my partnership where we play 10-15 limited openers and a 10-12 mini-nt unless I don't respect my opponents. I'd bid 1nt if that's 12-14 and 1♦ if I play a strong nt in pretty much all other systems and circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Why am I so concerned about the opponents coming in? I have a better than average hand (and RHO passed in 3rd seat) thus I rate to go plus more often than they do as long as we use good judgment through the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 The Pearson points/ Rule of 15 is meant for borderline opening hands. This is not borderline: has adequate QT, adequate HCP, 5-card suit. Even if you thought this was borderline, it still fulfills Pearson requirements. QFT. As Justin said, game of percentages. From time to time the correct action fails, that's just cards. If it bugs you, stay away from backgammon :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I would pass. This hand has an insufficient Casino count, (or Pearson count if you like). 12 + 3 = 15? Looks like enough? And it even has good controls, ie no jacks. How could this problem be here? Open your opening bids. Qx = 2?If you are downgrading for that you are surely upgrading for the heart ten, the 5 card suit, and the great controls. But anyway casino/pearson points (aka rule of 15) specifically mention high card points at any links I can find. This is really a borderline hand and while I am a firm believer in the Pearson count this one has several negative features like only 5 major suit cards and really ugly spot cards. Consequently I would reluctantly pass but have no real problem if partner chose to open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Really ugly spot cards? There are 9 spot cards in this hand. Average would be:T98765432This hand has:T99866652This hand has slightly better than average spot cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Really ugly spot cards? There are 9 spot cards in this hand. Average would be:T98765432This hand has:T99866652This hand has slightly better than average spot cards. maybe I should have been more specific and said your ♦ spots are wanting since this is your most likely place to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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