cloa513 Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Qxx J10xx K9xxx A [Dl] 10x K9 5432 AQJxx ♥ Please see Nonstandard signals Part 2 for the above part hands as I don't want to type them in again.North and South each have 5 spade including all honours. In clubs West has Ace but N-S all the other honours and only the Ace as a loser. N has some strength in clubs.Bidding (All N-S) Dealer South :1♠, 2♠, 3 ♥, 4♠, 6♠. Of course North is rediculously conservative but West leads a J♦ (I don't think a good lead low ♦ is better? to show 4) on 10 ♥ by North- South does only one round of spades to limit signals- does 2♥ indicate club lead preference and 5♥ indicate diamonds lead preference. There is slight risk of wrong signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 I don't understand why you think FULLHAND is a hassle but we having to read this is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 I don't understand why you think FULLHAND is a hassle but we having to read this is not. that's simple I don't read this crap :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmilne Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 right you want people to spend a few minutes analysis but can't be bothered to spend a few minutes typing in a hand, good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 [hv=n=sqxx&w=sj10xx&e=sk9xxx&s=sa]399|300|[Dl] [/hv][hv=n=sqxx&w=sj10xx&e=sk9xxx&s=sa]399|300|[Dl] [/hv] North and South each have 5 spade including all honours. In clubs West has Ace but N-S all the other honours and only the Ace as a loser. N has some strength in clubs.Bidding (All N-S) Dealer South :1♠, 2♠, 3 ♥, 4♠, 6♠. Of course North is rediculously conservative but West leads a J♦ (I don't think a good lead low ♦ is better? to show 4) on 10 ♥ by North- South does only one round of spades to limit signals- does 2♥ indicate club lead preference and 5♥ indicate diamonds lead preference. There is slight risk of wrong signal. I just hate that Fullhand rejects perfectly valid hand layouts (10x's) or just a small error even if you unclick the check number of cards box. Small errors shouldn't matter. Its also so easy to get it unsync ed with the source thread and it won't accept it then. Typing is fine for me- manual data entry is the hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 [hv=n=sqxx&w=sj10xx&e=sk9xxx&s=sa]399|300|[Dl] [/hv][hv=n=sqxx&w=sj10xx&e=sk9xxx&s=sa]399|300|[Dl] [/hv] North and South each have 5 spade including all honours. In clubs West has Ace but N-S all the other honours and only the Ace as a loser. N has some strength in clubs.Bidding (All N-S) Dealer South :1♠, 2♠, 3 ♥, 4♠, 6♠. Of course North is rediculously conservative but West leads a J♦ (I don't think a good lead low ♦ is better? to show 4) on 10 ♥ by North- South does only one round of spades to limit signals- does 2♥ indicate club lead preference and 5♥ indicate diamonds lead preference. There is slight risk of wrong signal. I just hate that Fullhand rejects perfectly valid hand layouts (10x's) or just a small error even if you unclick the check number of cards box. Small errors shouldn't matter. Its also so easy to get it unsync ed with the source thread and it won't accept it then. Typing is fine for me- manual data entry is the hassle. Keep reading the book you mentioned, it is a good one [Winning Declarer Play]. Also, keep reading the forums and maybe see how others post problems here. Yours are impossible to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Dl is diamonds. Why do you need every stupid little specified card to understand it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Dl is diamonds. Why do you need every stupid little specified card to understand it? Because we dont want to spend our energy reading unintelligble posts. And it is not arrogance, even the best players on this forum posts their problems in an easy-to-understand manner. Check out this nice presentation: http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=37664 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 The question is how does east tell west to lead clubs not another diamond after the lead went J♦Q♦K♦A♦ and then south leads one round of spades and declarer makes a losing finesse in heart. East has only 5432 of hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Why do you need irrelevant information to the hand? Other people give insufficient information. FullHand is a piece of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 no it's not. everyone likes him except you. maybe it's because you are the one with the problem and not fullhand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullhand Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 no it's not. everyone likes it except you. maybe it's because you are the one with the problem and not fullhand? I agree. Thank you for your support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 edited post, I think "it" is offensive, I didn't know you could talk! ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted March 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Even you don't have problems with full hand like I do- (even with check number box unchecked it still won't let me enter a hand and that its pedantic). Its not necessary to have all cards spelt out to you to understand what going on. If I said I have thirteen spades and played in 7 Spades would you still ask me to tell you the full tableau. If like many books they say North has plenty of entries and the layout in one suit is N: xxxS: AQ10xx and describe how to play, would you still ask for the full tableau. My example hand was exactly the same. The important information was there, I described the other general details which wouldn't affect the play of the other suit. With 5 spades in North and 5 spade in South with all the top honour spread between them, then there is little to no possibility of signalling given 2-1 break in defender's spades if south plays one round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 no it's not. everyone likes it except you. maybe it's because you are the one with the problem and not fullhand? I agree. Thank you for your support. Quality gimmick and quality first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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