rfp Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 An offbeat puzzle idea: In a 5-card ending at notrump, the defenders hold: [hv=d=&v=&w=sht98dck3&e=sk2hkqdac]266|100|[/hv]1. North-South have all the missing twos and threes,and South has more twos than threes. 2. North-South can win all five tricks against anydefense. (Player on lead is your choice.) What are the North-South hands? -- Richard PavlicekWeb site: www.rpbridge.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 33232- AQJT2--- Or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 33232- AQJT2--- Or am I missing something? Yes. The club 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 took me like 20 minutes, but I think I got it GJLJGK LJKGHKL where G=A,H=J, J=3,K=2,H->D, D->H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Looks good to me. EDIT: At least it did until it was edited. I am not going to spend the time it would take to decode it in its present version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Where is the lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Where is the lead? North in Fluffy's example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 you could pick who is on lead, but you can quickly discard east or west on lead since it cannot be neccesary. I am gonna codify my answer, don't wanna ruin the problem for some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 If we can pick where the lead is, then okay. If we can't, then Tyler's solution may not work — he needs the lead in North. I agree that the lead can't be in a defender's hand — well, at least it can't be in East's, since he has the ♦A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simplicity Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 How about [hv=n=s4ha3d3c2&s=saq3h2d2c]133|200|[/hv] North to lead a spade and make on a double squeeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfp Posted February 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Thanks to all who responded, which helped me determinethe problem was cooked (multiple solutions). Simplicity provided a valid solution, and some Fluffy catwho writes with white crayons may have too (LOL, maybeI'm dense, but I couldn't figure out how to read it). My intended solution (North leads ♣A): [hv=d=&v=&n=sa3h3dca2&w=sht98dck3&e=sk2hkqdac&s=shaj2d32c]399|300|[/hv]The curious 5-card ending was new to me, and I'm not evensure what to call it. The squeeze is saturated (threats in 4 suits),progressive (gains 2 tricks) and double (both opponents), so"saturated progressive double squeeze" would be my guess. I'll try to reword my conditions to yield only the above uniquesolution. (Note that Simplicity's solution could not be unique ashis "finessing" cards could be any suitable spades.) -- Richard PavlicekWeb site: www.rpbridge.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Semantics digression. Isn't any saturated squeeze automatically a type of (non-simultaneous) double squeeze? So maybe "saturated progressive squeeze" is more efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfp Posted February 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Semantics digression. Isn't any saturated squeeze automatically a type of (non-simultaneous) double squeeze? So maybe "saturated progressive squeeze" is more efficient. Good point. "Saturated" should mean _essential_ threats in allfour suits (which must involve both opponents) as opposed to afourth threat that is immaterial. Consider the SPS hereby christened. :) -- Richard PavlicekWeb site: www.rpbridge.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 [hv=n=shaqt3dc86&w=skhkj6dj8c&e=sh9875dcjt&s=sth4dk9ck7]399|300|Norman Bonney found this squeeze in 1933, according to George Coffin in Endplays (p120 in my 1957 UK edition). South leads his kings for what Coffin calls a triple-double repeating squeeze.[/hv][hv=n=shaqt3dc86&w=skhkj6dj8c&e=sh9875dcjt&s=sth4dk9ck7]399|300|Norman Bonney found this squeeze in 1933, according to George Coffin in Endplays (p120 in my 1957 UK edition). South leads his kings for what Coffin calls a triple-double repeating squeeze.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfp Posted February 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Nigel, I'm familiar with Bonney's squeeze, and a similar constructionby Don Kersey, but these are not the same. The key distinctionof my 5-card ending is the extended diamond threat (♦32), whichis essential despite the lack of a diamond entry. This is extremelyrare; in fact it has been postulated in the past that an extendedmenace is useless without an entry in its suit. -- Richard PavlicekWeb site: www.rpbridge.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 I'm familiar with Bonney's squeeze, and a similar construction by Don Kersey, but these are not the same. The key distinction of my 5-card ending is the extended diamond threat (♦32), which is essential despite the lack of a diamond entry. This is extremely rare; in fact it has been postulated in the past that an extended menace is useless without an entry in its suit.Richard's squeeze is great and I haven't met it before. But Coffin's nomenclature is worth consideration :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Thanks to all who responded, which helped me determinethe problem was cooked (multiple solutions). Simplicity provided a valid solution, and some Fluffy catwho writes with white crayons may have too (LOL, maybeI'm dense, but I couldn't figure out how to read it). My intended solution (North leads ♣A): <!-- FULLHAND begin --><table border=1> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td>Dealer:</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Vul:</td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Scoring:</td> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> A3 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> 3 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> A2 </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> T98 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> K3 </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> K2 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> KQ </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> A </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> AJ2 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> 32 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- FULLHAND end -->The curious 5-card ending was new to me, and I'm not evensure what to call it. The squeeze is saturated (threats in 4 suits),progressive (gains 2 tricks) and double (both opponents), so"saturated progressive double squeeze" would be my guess. I'll try to reword my conditions to yield only the above uniquesolution. (Note that Simplicity's solution could not be unique ashis "finessing" cards could be any suitable spades.) -- Richard PavlicekWeb site: www.rpbridge.net That was my solution, wich I guessed thanks to knowing you and how ♥J had to be vital since you don't put any pips carelessly :). However my junior friend Pedro Gonçalves provided a much easier solution (only a double squeeze instead of 3 squeezes) wich involves a 4 instead of a Jack, so somehow better :) ♠3♥A3♦-♣A2 ♠A4♥2♦32♣- EDIT: Now I see simplicity's line is even better, and I tried the separated diamonds for quite a few minutes so I hate that I missed it :/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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