Benoit35 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 This happened at the club last night. Playing 2/1: [hv=d=n&s=sxxxhxxxdakj10xxcx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] 1♠ - (p) - 1NT - (p)3NT - (p) - ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Because this is posted, I bet partner has something like: A K Q x x xA x Q x xA x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Why did I bid 1N forcing when I have what appears to be a perfectly normal spade raise? (fwiw, I would correct to 4♠ now, and kick myself for not bidding 2♠ initially). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 4♠ would show a very weak hand with spade support. So on the presumption you were treating this as a limit raise in spades I would just bid 6♠ now. 4NT is not (at least not obviously) keycard, 4♦ and 5♦ (and 5♣ if you consider that?) all seem natural without discussion, and 5♠ is possible as a value bid but I don't see how it will help our accuracy much at all unless we have detailed agreements anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcohio Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Why would i bid 2♠ with well over a "normal" spade raise? This is at least a limit raise if not more. 8HCP + 2 for the stiff club + 1-2 for the long diamonds = 11-12. I'm almost willing to game force with this hand and bid 2♦ and then raise spades on my next bid. However, with the bidding shown, I've worked myself into a jam. 4♠ is likely an underbid. 6♠ is my call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 With Oneferbrid's example companion hand, we would still not get to 7, but it is roughly what we would expect from the 3NT rebid --6 spades, game opposite a minimum responding hand, sort of balanced. 1NT was the start of a 3-card limit raise in spades? O.K., but unless 4D is defined as accepting spades with a concentration of values in Diamonds, we just have to blast to 6S. 4S might be only 2-card support, since opener showed 6. BTW, if 4D is a spade try, 4NT (6 keys in play), might get the grand. We don't have that agreement, but maybe we should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 This happened at the club last night. Playing 2/1: [hv=d=n&s=sxxxhxxxdakj10xxcx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] 1♠ - (p) - 1NT - (p)3NT - (p) - ? complete your planned action which was to show ♠ support over partner's forced call over 1NT. I would call 4♦ in case partner turns stupid on me and passes (I hate going down :) ) and bid 5♠ if instead he calls 5♦. You are forced to do it like this because of his 3NT call (probably instead of a sane 2NT call). A direct 4♠ would show a much weaker hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Why did I bid 1N forcing when I have what appears to be a perfectly normal spade raise? (fwiw, I would correct to 4♠ now, and kick myself for not bidding 2♠ initially). mainly because your hand is good enough IMO for a 3card limit raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 8HCP + 2 for the stiff club + 1-2 for the long diamonds = 11-12. If you expect using the short clubs and the long diamonds on this deal you better bid 7 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit35 Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 The rest of the story: being jammed, I blasted 6♠ and we were the only pair to bid slam. Everyone made 12 tricks. Partner had something likeAQJxx AK Qxx Kxx but I can't remember exactly. If I had to do it again, I'd probably bid a GF 2♦ in response to the opening. By our system his next bid would have been 3NT, after which I have a 4♥ bid to keycard for spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 The rest of the story: being jammed, I blasted 6♠ and we were the only pair to bid slam. Everyone made 12 tricks. Partner had something likeAQJxx AK Qxx Kxx but I can't remember exactly. If I had to do it again, I'd probably bid a GF 2♦ in response to the opening. By our system his next bid would have been 3NT, after which I have a 4♥ bid to keycard for spades. Jdonn would now say: to bad we don't have a bid that shows 18-19 balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 The rest of the story: being jammed, I blasted 6♠ and we were the only pair to bid slam. Everyone made 12 tricks. Partner had something likeAQJxx AK Qxx Kxx but I can't remember exactly. If I had to do it again, I'd probably bid a GF 2♦ in response to the opening. By our system his next bid would have been 3NT, after which I have a 4♥ bid to keycard for spades. Jdonn would now say: to bad we don't have a bid that shows 18-19 balanced. No I would say: too bad we don't have a bid that shows 18-19 balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 ok you got me this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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