deep Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 System 5°major diamond 4° [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sqj3hkj1065dkq2c106]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] 1♦ (pass) 1♥ (pass) 2nt (pass) ? what bid south? I should communicate that the hearts are 5° and that have the points, therefore should change color therefore 3♠ or 3♣. But 3♣ is Stayman and i not have ♠ or 3♦ is support weak diamond. What to do? Thanks to all for the help :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 System 5°major diamond 4° [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sqj3hkj1065dkq2c106]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] 1♦ (pass) 1♥ (pass) 2nt (pass) ? what bid south? I should communicate that the hearts are 5° and that have the points, therefore should change color therefore 3♠ or 3♣. But 3♣ is Stayman and i not have ♠ or 3♦ is support weak diamond. What to do? Thanks to all for the help :) combined assets are 30-31 just bid 3NT and don't worry about it anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinorKid Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I'll try 3♠!It shows where your honors be!bid NT or ♦ next round. You have a five card suit. If most honors are in ♦ ♥ ♠ and he has ♣A,then 30 HCP is enough for slam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 System 5°major diamond 4° [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sqj3hkj1065dkq2c106]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] 1♦ (pass) 1♥ (pass) 2nt (pass) ? what bid south? I should communicate that the hearts are 5° and that have the points, therefore should change color therefore 3♠ or 3♣. But 3♣ is Stayman and i not have ♠ or 3♦ is support weak diamond. What to do? Thanks to all for the help :P Revise your system. Consider some version of Wolff signoff. Until then, bid 3N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 3♣ is not Stayman here, it is check-back-stayman or something like that: it asks for 3-card heart support (and/or 4-card spades if that is a possible holding). You could bid 3♣ with this hand. BTW in modern methods, 3♥ would be forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 3NT seems very reasonable at matchpoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Saying he should bid 3NT misses the point of the question IMO, which is that if 3♣ is checking back it doesn't promise 4 spades as the OP seems to believe, it can be (and usually is) based on 5 hearts checking back for a 3 card fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 Saying he should bid 3NT misses the point of the question IMO, which is that if 3♣ is checking back it doesn't promise 4 spades as the OP seems to believe, it can be (and usually is) based on 5 hearts checking back for a 3 card fit. It may be a language issue, but I interpreted "what bid south?" to mean "what bid south?" which is the question I and others provided an answer for. I, personally, hoped that my failure to address what 3♣ should be would imply that 3♣ is not what I think OP should bid, and therefore shouldn't be a concern. If OP wanted to know what 3♣ should mean, it seems more effective to not give a hand that shouldn't bid 3♣, or to use the handy search feature to find other threads that deal with the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 I agree you answered the question. I didn't say you didn't, I just said you missed the point. Maybe my interpretation of "But 3♣ is Stayman" is off, but I took "3♣ is stayman" to mean the OP thinks 3♣ promises 4 spades and "but" to mean that therefore he had no way to check back for a heart fit. So letting him know 3♣ doesn't promise 4 spades and can be used to check back for a heart fit addresses his concern IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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