What do you bid?

[masse24]

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Both sides vulnerable

 

Partner, in first seat, bids 1♣, RHO bids 2♠ (weak), ?

 

What do you bid? :rolleyes:

Why?

 

My partner was Advanced but I had only played with her once before, briefly.

[helene_t]

4♠.

[mcphee]

I see options of 3S, 4S and 3D. Each choice may become difficult if the next hand is to raise S. We could easily make a ton of clubs here and it would have been nice to know what the vulnerability is, as that would affect my choice.

 

I will opt for 3S with the intention of pulling 3NT to 4C which would leave room for me to hear 4H. I think 3S allows me to find out the most information.

[hanp]

I think 4S is bad, we are far too good to stop if partner signs off in 5C and by then it is no longer possible to investigate 7 (or to find that that we needed to stop in 5C anyway).

 

It doesn't seem right not to support clubs so 3D is out. We'd also be hopelessly stuck if the opponents bid 4S.

 

3S looks ok, although it would be a nuisance if the opponents bid 4S next.

 

Blasting 5S is not so strange I think, if partner has both aces I'm willing to play the grand.

[pooltuna]

[hv=d=e&v=b&s=sh63dakt732ckq863]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

Both sides vulnerable

 

Partner, in first seat, bids 1♣, RHO bids 2♠ (weak), ?

 

What do you bid? :unsure:

Why?

 

My partner was Advanced but I had only played with her once before, briefly.

first make a list of your potential choices. Clearly some number of ♣ are choices 3♣,4♣,5♣, even 6♣ as is 3♦ (assumes forcing), and finally 3♠ regardless of how you play it then whittle down the choices. 3♣ is probably non forcing, 4♣ is probably only highly invitational, 5♣ is pretty unilateral and may miss a slam, 6♣ is also unilateral and may be too high or too low. 3♦ shows a good suit and for me would be forcing and this would make, again for me, 4♣ forcing it probably will help partner make a better decision after LHO's 4♠s gets passed around to you. Some might play 4♦ as a picture bid with ♣ support. Finally 3♠ could be a LR+ for ♣ or a general GF Qbid and 4♠ a splinter for ♣ one plus of 3♠ is that partner may get a chance to bid 3NT which slows you down since you now have ♠ wastage. This is pretty much a toss up IMO between 3♦ and 3♠

[dicklont]

4♠ when it is exclusion blackwood, but that will only work in an established partnership.

So I bid 3♠ expecting 4♣ from partner, cue 4♦ and then I hope that partner can cue 4♥.

If she can I bid 6♣.

Did we miss 7? Bummer.

[masse24]

Part of my thought process at the table included the following:

 

One week prior to this she was my opponent and the bidding went...

 

My partner, in first seat opened 1♥, RHO bid 1♠, I bid 3♠ meaning it as a splinter for ♥'s. She stated that splinters were not "ON" after interference (which I disagreed with).

I would have liked for a 4♠ bid to be Exclusion, but, is this bid Exclusion when the Club suit has not been bid and raised?

 

My first choice of bids was 4♠, BUT, with our previous discussion a week earlier, I chose not to. This was a team match and I was filling in so we had literally 2 minutes to discuss system prior to playing. Unfortunately I had not considered some of the other choices presented, so I just blasted 5♣.

 

The full hand:

 

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Yes...we made 7. :)

The only saving grace...it was a push with the other table.

[neilkaz]

I think the west hand has far too much slam potential to be satisfied with a jump to 5♣. I'd take the route most likely to flash a slam signal at this particular pd and get her to cooperate.

 

If I was sure 4♠ would be taken as exclusion RKCB for ♣ I think I'd go that route. But here, I fear that would just confuse pd and not result in a good exchange of info.

[hanp]

I don't think you want to play 4S as exclusion, a splinter is more important.

[mcphee]

I do not see why people have a bug to bid exclusion when they hold 2 fast losers in a suit their side has not bid, in addition to possibly facing a 3 card suit which just might not split 3-2.

[hanp]

Phee, while I agree that exclusion is not perfect, it is rather unlikely that you will have a very precise auction to 7C here, especially if your opponents bid 4S next if given the chance.

[jdonn]

I bid 3♦, I don't fear this since I'm willing to bid as many clubs as needed next round. But why can't we belong in diamonds?

[Jlall]

I bid 3♦, I don't fear this since I'm willing to bid as many clubs as needed next round. But why can't we belong in diamonds?

Yep I like to bid suits that will often be our best trump fit.

[MinorKid]

If we had agreed to play Fit Jumps after an overcall (Like Me) i 'll bid 4♦

, showing honors (From AKx to QJxxx) in the bid suit and support in partner's suit (♣) all in one bid.

Partner may then find out my honors by blackwood / cue bid sequence

 

Partner may hold ♦QJx.. instead of ♦Jx which makes grand slams more likely to appear on other tables.

 

If we don't play Fit Jumps

In this case i would try void-wood ... if partner don't have ♥A or ♥K then why would he open?

In other simular cases , we have an option between giving direct support and bidding own suit. We have the choices of 3♦, 3♠ , 4♣, 4♦(if not splinter) 4♠ or even 5/6♣. I will choose 3♦ and raise partner's ♣.