babalu1997 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 So, at bbo sometimes players talk about hands in open tourn chat. is it legal/ethical to draw inferences from that? these are duplicate players playing elsewhere thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Nope. Well, unless the hands they're talking about are not hands you are going to play - in which case it would be silly to draw inferences about the hands you will play. But not illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 But not illegal.Not illegal to use extraneous information? Ever read Law16C? In regular bridge, it is illegal to play the boards without informing the director about the information you received. But online, where there is no director available, I do not know what can be done. Perhaps BBO should be informed of the problem and can then make open chat unavailable to people who are playing at a table. In the meantime I would skip, if that is an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 But not illegal.Not illegal to use extraneous information? Ever read Law16C? Of course I've read law 16C. In fact, given your comment, I'm pretty sure you haven't. Or at least, not understood it. Consider the words about a board he is playing or has yet to play. Then maybe you should reread my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Consider the words about a board he is playing or has yet to play. Then maybe you should reread my post.I don't understand what you are trying to say. The original poster was talking about hands that he or she was going to be playing. In real life, you speak to the director and get a substitute board at teams or an artificial adjusted score at pairs, at least if you are honest and tell the director that you have overheard some loud people. I don't see how this situation is any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I am completely at a loss to understand what blackshoe said and why. Perhaps my problem is that I have understood the OP question differently? Could we start over... The OP question as I understand it, is: I hear others talk about a hand I am playing or will soon be playing. Is it legal to use this information that I have just heard/read in the lobby chat? What is your answer to this question, blackshoe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 His answer was:Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Interesting. So if you hear lobby chat about a hand that you have already played, and as a result of that chat you re-evaluate how you did on that board, it is OK to adjust your future strategy accordingly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 His answer was:Nope. Thank you, Gordon! I'm glad someone here actually bothered to read what I wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Thank you, Gordon! I'm glad someone here actually bothered to read what I wrote.Sorry, my mistake. I read what you wrote, but misread the OP. I thought that the question asked was whether taking inferences was illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 His answer was:Nope. Thank you, Gordon! I'm glad someone here actually bothered to read what I wrote. I read the OP a few times and STILL thought she was asking if it was illegal. Sorry all, especially blackshoe. And it was no trouble reading what _you_ wrote... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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