Echognome Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sha32dkqt85cjt842]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦ - (2♠) - P - (P);?[/hv] You are playing 2/1. What now? As an aside, you can state your disgust or admiration in opening 1♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Dislike opening, but not strongly. Would open playing Std Am or strong club. Anything but pass now is criminal. I don't care if partner has a penalty double of spades... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 x wtp 2N is nat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 1♦ is fine especially with a good suit. Among the options now from worst to best, 2NT is not one because it's natural. You are way too light for 3♣ and have takeout shape anyway so that's wrong. Pass is feeble IMO since even with how minimum we are we have decent defense. I have the right shape to double so I double. There is not only a penalty pass, partner could have some 4324 8 or 9 count as well and then I want to compete in clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 If it was an opening hand before, it's still an opening hand now. Dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 would have opened 1d.Would prefer 2NT not to be natural, but would rather have a better hand with 0-3-6-4 (delay unusual).3C=right shape, but wrong strength.this leaves double and pass. Double by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney26 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 would have opened 1d.Would prefer 2NT not to be natural, but would rather have a better hand with 0-3-6-4 (delay unusual).3C=right shape, but wrong strength.this leaves double and pass. Double by default. I don't think the "delay unusual" hand is going to come up much. Unless you play a Mexican 2D and can remove it from the possible list of hands you can hold, the 3-2-4-4/18-19 HCP is going to be tough to handle. 2S is going to shut out a lot of partner's 7-9 counts (especially ones where partner has a useful card in spades). If you're void and RHO has red blood cells, partner's going to have a spade stack most of the time that this would ever come up. When partner doesn't have a stack, RHO is usually going to raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I would have passed or opened a weak two in diamonds playing standard methods. Given the current sequence, I like a 3♣ balance (and my second choice is pass, not double). Given the auction so far, it seems very likely that partner has 4-5♠ (no raise from RHO). This greatly increases the chance that partner is passing if we double. I'm not convinced this is likely to work out well; converting a double like this doesn't promise the four tricks we will need to set, and I expect a lot more 2♠= results than 2♠-2 results. Another issue is that partner will strain to bid hearts over the double. For example, with a 4423 hand partner (if not passing) will bid 3♥. I'd expect 3♣ to work out better most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 The actual hand. http://www.bridgebase.com/tools/handviewer...8926-1265004615 Opening 1♦ and doubling didn't work out this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 You might say playing for penalties at a low level without a trump stack didn't work this time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 No unreasonable decisions there, just an unfortunate result, I think. The reopening double with a void is never risk-free, as we know... still, on the posted hand I think it's the most reasonable action. If GB2N were on in this auction it's handle things nicely - but in my partnerships, it is not. Oh well. Maybe at IMPs you should have one more spot in spades to pass rather than bid clubs. but if I were east or west I wouldn't heavily criticize any of my partner's bids here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sha32dkqt85cjt842]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦ - (2♠) - P - (P);?[/hv] You are playing 2/1. What now? As an aside, you can state your disgust or admiration in opening 1♦. Protect your partner!!! if that means bidding 3♣ instead of X then do it just don't pass IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Looks like bad luck to me... I would not have opened the South hand; however, much better players than me would. Once you open, you need to reopen and I think that double is the best call.Regretfully, you ran into a situation in which both sides had a double fit. This is seldom good for the defense. In this case, it meant that the bulk of Jason's cards weren't worth squat on defense. Such is life... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I would have opened and doubled (but I do think that 1♦ is getting close to the bottom of the barrel). Very much dislike the pass for penalties on partner's hand. K932, and a partial fit for diamonds, and all the points in clubs. I would have tried 3NT immediately. 3NT won't make but if it escapes a double it will score better than -570. Why the 3 hour turnaround time between posting and showing the hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I would have opened and doubled (but I do think that 1♦ is getting close to the bottom of the barrel). Very much dislike the pass for penalties on partner's hand. K932, and a partial fit for diamonds, and all the points in clubs. I would have tried 3NT immediately. 3NT won't make but if it escapes a double it will score better than -570. If it doesn't escape a double it will also score better than -570, either -100 or -300 depending which major south leads. Also if doubled, west may wise up and run... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 passing for penalties on k932 is druggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 If it was an opening hand before, it's still an opening hand now. Dbl. We agree and for me this is an opening hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 easy 2nt by pard not pass. 3nt if open soundish. I reopen x always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 yep..i stick with open and double, too....can't change our system to GB 2NT after opening--just because it works -- in the middle of an auction. If pard pulls the double to 2NT, 3C is easy and resting in 3D, though, if this shows weakness and shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 yes...I think pard should neverpass.... just bid 2nt over 2s...or 3nt if pard does not open on junk. this lets me open on junk and reopen with x on junk.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 by the way...having trouble constructing a hand that can't open 2NT, but can bid 2NT in a natural way on this auction. Can think of a few which would bid 3NT, but not two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 by the way...having trouble constructing a hand that can't open 2NT, but can bid 2NT in a natural way on this auction. Can think of a few which would bid 3NT, but not two.Think of balanced 18-19 with something like Axx in spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 think of 2d..alert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDean Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I would pass without a second thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 by the way...having trouble constructing a hand that can't open 2NT, but can bid 2NT in a natural way on this auction. Can think of a few which would bid 3NT, but not two.Think of balanced 18-19 with something like Axx in spades. maybe that works for you....I get buried when I dont have the strength for the bid and bid anyway....I guess that is why people open 2D with 18 to 19 and don't worry that they might belong at the one-level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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