PFormaini Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=sq98h43d97cj87542]133|100|Scoring: Rubber[/hv] Your goal is to construct the North/South hands so that the ONLY card you can lead that will defeat 6♠ is the ♠Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 jjbrr, where's your pictures? I miss their cuteness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Uriah Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Are you looking for realistic hands where you can actually reason that the ♠Q is best, or just a double dummy solution? The latter seems quite simple, but here's one: [hv=n=sjhak97652d3c10963&w=sq98h43d97cj87542&e=s72hqj108dqj10652cq&s=sak106543hdak84cak]399|300|[/hv] I suppose that if the auction was some long revealing relay affair you might decide that the ♠Q was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 lol, there are zounds of combinations for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFormaini Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Are you looking for realistic hands where you can actually reason that the ♠Q is best, or just a double dummy solution? The latter seems quite simple, but here's one: <!-- FULLHAND begin --><table border=1> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td>Dealer:</td> <td> ????? </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Vul:</td> <td> ???? </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Scoring:</td> <td> Unknown </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> J </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> AK97652 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> 3 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> 10963 </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> Q98 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> 43 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> 97 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> J87542 </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> 72 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> QJ108 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> QJ10652 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> Q </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> AK106543 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> AK84 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> AK </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- FULLHAND end --> I suppose that if the auction was some long revealing relay affair you might decide that the ♠Q was right. Yes, that works (though on a CLUB lead South has to be VERY careful.) Actually, there are a few other solutions, but the most famous one is from several sources - and involved having Spades bid and supported by partner - a tougher bit of construction. The solution to THAT puzzle is below: Good job! Alternative Solution" [hv=n=sj10xhj10xxxxdkxxxc&w=sq98hxxdxxcjxxxxx&e=shakqxxdj10xxcaq10x&s=sakxxxxxhdaqxckxx]399|300|[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I knew better than to respond, and then have the post changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Are you looking for realistic hands where you can actually reason that the ♠Q is best, or just a double dummy solution? The latter seems quite simple, but here's one: <!-- FULLHAND begin --><table border=1> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td>Dealer:</td> <td> ????? </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Vul:</td> <td> ???? </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Scoring:</td> <td> Unknown </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> J </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> AK97652 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> 3 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> 10963 </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> Q98 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> 43 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> 97 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> J87542 </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> 72 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> QJ108 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> QJ10652 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> Q </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> AK106543 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> AK84 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> AK </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- FULLHAND end --> I suppose that if the auction was some long revealing relay affair you might decide that the ♠Q was right. Yes, that works (though on a CLUB lead South has to be VERY careful.) Actually, there are a few other solutions, but the most famous one is from several sources - and involved having Spades bid and supported by partner - a tougher bit of construction. The solution to THAT puzzle is below: Good job! Alternative Solution" [hv=n=sj10xhj10xxxxdkxxxc&w=sq98hxxdxxcjxxxxx&e=shakqxxdj10xxcaq10x&s=sakxxxxxhdaqxckxx]399|300|[/hv] why would you play to ruff the 3rd diamond when you can ruff the 2nd so a ♣ does not set the contract.T1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFormaini Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 I knew better than to respond, and then have the post changed.The original post wasn't changed, dear. Perhaps you should invest in a pair of glasses? Or better yet - actually supplied a solution. I updated my post to include the solution based on the original source for the puzzle. Rather than post it as a separate thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFormaini Posted February 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Are you looking for realistic hands where you can actually reason that the ♠Q is best, or just a double dummy solution? The latter seems quite simple, but here's one: <!-- FULLHAND begin --><table border=1> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td>Dealer:</td> <td> ????? </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Vul:</td> <td> ???? </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Scoring:</td> <td> Unknown </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> J </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> AK97652 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> 3 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> 10963 </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> Q98 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> 43 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> 97 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> J87542 </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> 72 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> QJ108 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> QJ10652 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> Q </td> </tr> </table> </th> </tr> <tr> <th> </th> <th> <table> <tr> <th class='spades'>♠</th> <td> AK106543 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='hearts'>♥</th> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='diamonds'>♦</th> <td> AK84 </td> </tr> <tr> <th class='clubs'>♣</th> <td> AK </td> </tr> </table> </th> <th> </th> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- FULLHAND end --> I suppose that if the auction was some long revealing relay affair you might decide that the ♠Q was right. Yes, that works (though on a CLUB lead South has to be VERY careful.) Actually, there are a few other solutions, but the most famous one is from several sources - and involved having Spades bid and supported by partner - a tougher bit of construction. The solution to THAT puzzle is below: Good job! Alternative Solution" [hv=n=sj10xhj10xxxxdkxxxc&w=sq98hxxdxxcjxxxxx&e=shakqxxdj10xxcaq10x&s=sakxxxxxhdaqxckxx]399|300|[/hv] why would you play to ruff the 3rd diamond when you can ruff the 2nd so a ♣ does not set the contract.T1 Why does anyone misplay a hand? If there were not people around who would try to cash the K♦ and then try for the ruff and then the hart pitch, then none of us would ever get a top board through carelessness. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Please forgive my tardiness. I'm on vacation and haven't checked around here lately. However, ask and ye shall receive. http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8880/65930117.pnghttp://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3813/39173056.pnghttp://img690.imageshack.us/img690/75/24780788.pnghttp://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6831/92080515.pnghttp://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8909/68384045.pnghttp://img98.imageshack.us/img98/701/67728827.pnghttp://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9813/87175009.pnghttp://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9817/27384369.pnghttp://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9554/88247673.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Uriah Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Alternative Solution" Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ J10x ♥ J10xxxx ♦ Kxxx ♣ [space] ♠ Q98 ♥ xx ♦ xx ♣ Jxxxxx ♠ [space] ♥ AKQxx ♦ J10xx ♣ AQ10x ♠ AKxxxxx ♥ [space] ♦ AQx ♣ Kxx Why does the ♠Q defeat the contract? Can't you just ruff one club, draw trumps (with no losers) and squeeze East in everything? What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 Quick, change the hands Pformaini! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyams Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I suspect the original book from where he picked this example had a problem that read "...defeat 7♠...", not 6♠ This is getting hillarious ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I don't think there is any problem defeating 7♠ :rolleyes:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyams Posted February 15, 2010 Report Share Posted February 15, 2010 I don't think there is any problem defeating 7♠ :rolleyes:. You are right, of course :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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