Rebid after traditional forcing 1NT

[Fluffy]

I´ve been taught to play on 5-2 and not in 4-3 at low levels, I am not sure about the main reason, but think it is related with trump control: if you ruff a trick at start you are probably already under in trump lenght.

 

Playing on 4-3 may have an strategic isue: you are so poor that you by no means what your partner to bid anything higher.

[Cascade]

1♠ 1NT

2♥ 2♠

3m?

 

I would try 3♥

Why would 3♥ show values?

Well, from the feel of the bid.

I have shown 6-10 wioth a doubleton spade. Partner is prepared to play in 3♠ opposite anything I can hold for my bid. So, my 3♠ would be a bust. Anything else shows some extras.

I would play 3minor here as non-forcing.

 

Opener is limited by his rebid of 2♥.

 

Essentially 3minor says this is my hand you pick the contract.

 

1♠ 1NT

2♥ 2♠

3♦ ?

 

Pass something like ♠ xx ♥ xx ♦ AQxxx ♣ xxxx

3♥ minimum with three hearts

3♠ minimum without diamonds or three hearts

3NT maximum with a club stopper

4♦ maximum with diamonds

4♥ maximum with three hearts (probably no club stopper)

4♠ maximum with three spades

[1eyedjack]

One of the techniques I have been playing with is 2-step transfer rebids by opener wherever possible. Thus

1S-1N-2D = 6+S

1S-1N-2C = 4+H (or certain hands with Clubs)

 

Responder rebids next step as a relay with more than a minimum 1N response, after which opener makes his natural (step 1) rebid with no further interest. The purpose is to try to prevent you going beyond 2M opposite a wide range 1N response unless it is reasonably safe to do so.

 

There is of course a cost: Inability to play in 2m.

 

When kibbitzing some top-level tournaments on BBO I have noticed an increasing trend among top players who play FNT using some similar sort of techniques (ones that give up on 2m anyway). Complete schemes are rarely described by the commentators but I doubt that they are identical to my home-grown methods. Probably a lot better than mine.

[gabika73]

To come to think of it again, yes, I agree. 3m can be passed.

Though it might depend on the values and/or distribution needed for a 3♥ jump shift by opener.

[whereagles]

2♠ here. If pard can't find a bid over this, there's surely no game for us.

[EarlPurple]

Am I too strong for 2♠ simple preference? What do I bid on a 2-2-5-4 7-count? How does partner bid on a 5-4-2-2 16-count?

 

My choice is 2NT. If I get to a bad 3NT on 26-points combined, so will everyone else and I'll get a flat board. If I miss a game that makes everyone else will be in it.

[dogsbreath]

hi

nothing is perfect and pass/2s is too risky

.hence 2NT .. p is allowed to have 5-4-2-2 with minor card(s) and sh bid 3minor with good 5-4-3/1-1/3 ..

I'd prefer more in the minors for this bid but still looks best choice

Rgds Dog

 

furnulun pani nolo

[mishovnbg]

The big disadvantage of natural system is wide range of strength. This normally lead to regular underbid/overbid problems, like one in example. When you must guess in same positions best way is to overbid for possible game. Pass with 10 hcp as responder is ridiculous, when opener can have up to 17-18hcp(bad for suit contract, but good for your NT contract, like stiff honours). 2♠ is acceptable bid, but underbid is just wrong strategy.

Best bid is 2NT. You have perfect hand for NT: fill with high honours p long suits and low honours in side suits. Your stops are not sure? Not a perfect world...Bridge is game for bidders, like wrote Mike Lawrence! 2♠ with such wide range as 5-10hcp can lead to worse overbids from opener, with less information than responder. 2NT also give you chance to find good game on 4♥/♠, if your p rebid 3♦, in which case your hand will be perfect(i will bid 4♣ as pick up contract).

Misho