Siegmund Posted February 11, 2010 Report Share Posted February 11, 2010 Creeping back in since I was called out.... Siegmund and gnasher (for different reasons), how does partner bid AJx xxx AQJx AKx? If 3H promises support, he sniffles quietly, and then says a prayer that partner really has 5 spades before closing the auction at 4♠, probably. Partner does in fact have 5 something like 80% of the time here I think. With the same hand after 1♥-X-p-1♠-p, I would feel decidedly subminimum for 2♥ and worry about partner's chances in 2NT. I might well think a simple raise to 2♠ was enough. Anyway, OP's auction isn't one I've ever discussed with anyone - more a meta-agreement thing that I'd think it implied support since the strong hand-types normally would rebid 2N or 3m. I don't know which is a more useful meaning for the cuebid, the strong hand with spades or the one with neither spades nor a heart stopper. The 3343 19-count without a heart stopper is a bear to bid, not denying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I think 4H shows 4144, maybe I'm crazy. With 5 spades I would rebid spades.Then how would you bid 4333 with three small hearts and adequate strength? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomSac Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I think 4H shows 4144, maybe I'm crazy. With 5 spades I would rebid spades.Then how would you bid 4333 with three small hearts and adequate strength? I'd bid 3S but I grant your point, maybe 4H should show that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukmoi Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 I think that after responders jump new minors by doubler are natural and forcing(and 4♣♦ cuebids agreeing spades). Therefore 3♥ is needed mainly as general GF with no good natural altervative with something like ♠ AKx ♥ Qxx ♦ AQJx ♣ Kxx. Subsequent bidding is natural since five of a minor is still very much in the picture. If my partner would bid 4♥ after 3♥ I would think he has a great hand for spades with short hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted February 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Overcaller's hand was AKx Qx AQ8xx Axx. Possibly X followed by 3D would have been better than X followed by cuebid. Anyway, I didn't like my hand much so I made the one bid that pretty much everyone agrees is wrong: 3S. We got to spades making 4 instead of diamonds making 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Agree that partner should bid 3♦. You'll splinter and 6 will be obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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