Free Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 [hv=d=e&v=e&s=s964hkj6daq9652cq]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] RHO opens in 1st seat with 4♣, preempt in ♣. Do you feel the need to bid or not in this NV vs V situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 The way you said it "feel the need" explain something i tried to tell you guys not long ago, i always feel the need because i like to bid, i like to play, but i can controll this need and hopefully so is my partner.Anyway i think i'll bid 4♦ here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Clear pass to me, specially NV vrs VUL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Pass. Not even a close decision. I have a minimum opening bid and the QC is worthless but might snag a trick on defense. It wouldn't occur to me to start this hand at he four level. If partner balances with a double, I'll try 5D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Good learned a new thing , i will pass it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Lack an ace to bid anything (and it would be double with this structure) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 My screensaver has kicked on twice since I strated looking at this hand, so I've certainly barred partner from acting on his balanced 15. Obviously this is a close decision, but I'm a bidder because: 1. I have the shortness in the preempt, so its incumbent for me to act with any excuse to bid. 2. I have a decent suit. 3. If pard trots 4 of a major, he won't be disappointed with this dummy. Toughest problem I've seen on here since I've started posting again. Its a close decision, and I won't stand up for this call, and wouldn't be the least bit surprised if 4♦ is a bloodbath. But I also won't be surprised if this call gets us to a nice game or slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Pass, any vulnerabilty.Expecting partner with more than 7-8hcop (average) is not bridge, it is gambling. In direct seat this hand is barely enough to bid over a weak 2, not enough at 3 level, let alone at level 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 i voted pass, but it would be much tougher if the vul was reversed... still a pass i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Pass. You need partner to cover 5 of 7 losers to make game in diamonds and 4 of 6 to make game in a major if partner has a five-card major. Alternatively you have only two or three useful cards for partner plus a ruffing value if he bids a major. He will be able to bid with most hands that make game. As an aside I would play 4♦ here as (non-)Leaping Michaels showing five diamonds and a five-card major. So I am way short of bidding 5♦! I think this is a much more useful treatment than a natural 4♦. Years ago I did a big simulation on bidding over a pre-empt. Bidding 4minor was a big loser. The main reason was that even when it was right you often didn't gain much +130 is just not worth having. So I am happy to give up these natural bids for something that will help me find the right game where the pay-off is greater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlPurple Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 I voted for pass. If I am going to bid it would have to be Dbl. I have reasonable defence should partner choose to pass, and reasonable offense should partner choose to bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbreath Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Hi..Pass with a weak p, cos we'll get too high.Pass with a good p, cos it's a partnership game. Rgds Dog furnulum pani nolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 I pass. If pard can't bid over 4C, we can't make a thing. Incidently, if he reopens 4M, I pass again :P This would be a problem if it were 4C p p ?? but even here I'd probably pass. Certainly at imps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Do you feel the need to bid or not in this NV vs V situation? I feel the need for speed, that's why I fly around at 500+ mph.But I pass this hand. Mike :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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