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  1. 1. so what?

    • I bid 6 hearts
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    • pass, lead a spade
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    • pass, lead a heart
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    • pass, lead a diamond
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    • pass, lead a club
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you are vulnerable in 4th position

 

(pass)-2-(4)-5

(5)-X-(XX)

 

 

You have the ftable eeling that partner doubled because pass would be forcing, after reminding you to pass for the next 5 boards in competition what do you do?

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AJ

AJxxx

Q98x

Jx

 

 

you are vulnerable in 4th position

 

(pass)-2-(4)-5

(5)-X-(XX)

 

 

You have the ftable eeling that partner doubled because pass would be forcing, after reminding you to pass for the next 5 boards in competition what do you do?

abstain until board colors are clearly defined and 2 systemic meaning is given

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Maybe this would be a good time to review your forcing pass agreements?

 

I pass and lead a trump. If partner has x KQxxxx xxx xxx we're going for 1100 in 6. Anyway, RHO can't really be certain that he's making.

I assumed this was IMPs and you have an Auto pass at these colors with your example hand and X of 5 is totally idiotic, maybe anyway even if you hold the right hand for an IMPs V vs NV "weak" 2

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I assumed this was IMPs and you have an Auto pass at these colors with your example hand and X of 5 is totally idiotic, maybe anyway even if you hold the right hand for an IMPs V vs NV "weak" 2

Did you read the question? In Fluffy's methods, a pass of 5 is forcing. For partner to pass suggests competing to 6. That would be an odd thing to do with the example hand I gave.

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I assumed this was IMPs and you have an Auto pass at these colors with your example hand and X of 5 is totally idiotic, maybe anyway even if you hold the right hand for an IMPs V vs NV "weak" 2

Did you read the question? In Fluffy's methods, a pass of 5 is forcing. For partner to pass suggests competing to 6. That would be an odd thing to do with the example hand I gave.

Also odd to open 2 vul with that hand :P

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OK, Fluffy thinks that his partner thinks pass is forcing. That doesn't affect the set of hands on which his partner would double.

 

Fluffy, did you really mean that your reason for believing that partner thinks this a forcing-pass auction is "table feel"? If so, that can only have come from partner, so you have to treat this feeling as unauthorised information. The unauthorised information suggests bidding over passing, so you're obliged to pass.

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I assumed this was IMPs and you have an Auto pass at these colors with your example hand and X of 5 is totally idiotic, maybe anyway even if you hold the right hand for an IMPs V vs NV "weak" 2

Did you read the question? In Fluffy's methods, a pass of 5 is forcing. For partner to pass suggests competing to 6. That would be an odd thing to do with the example hand I gave.

You misunderstand I meant your example hand is an auto pass rather than a 2 preempt V vs NV assuming IMPS.

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I assumed this was IMPs and you have an Auto pass at these colors with your example hand and X of 5 is totally idiotic, maybe anyway even if you hold the right hand for an IMPs V vs NV "weak" 2

Did you read the question? In Fluffy's methods, a pass of 5 is forcing. For partner to pass suggests competing to 6. That would be an odd thing to do with the example hand I gave.

You misunderstand I meant your example hand is an auto pass rather than a 2 preempt V vs NV assuming IMPS.

So when you wrote "X of 5 is totally idiotic" you meant "this isn't a 2 opening"?

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I assumed this was IMPs and you have an Auto pass at these colors with your example hand and X of 5 is totally idiotic, maybe anyway even if you hold the right hand for an IMPs V vs NV "weak" 2

Did you read the question? In Fluffy's methods, a pass of 5 is forcing. For partner to pass suggests competing to 6. That would be an odd thing to do with the example hand I gave.

You misunderstand I meant your example hand is an auto pass rather than a 2 preempt V vs NV assuming IMPS.

So when you wrote "X of 5 is totally idiotic" you meant "this isn't a 2 opening"?

well it is IMO only but yes and if you think it is a 2 hand then it is idiotic to play forcing pass in this situation.

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Pass of course. Must pass with UI. Very strange to see this a forcing pass situation. It was a 2 opening, not a 2 opening, right?

 

With normal NF passes, I don't think double from opener here is anything fancy like lightner. Just some good defense to go with our hoped-for values for a vul 5 bid.

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So when you wrote "X of 5 is totally idiotic" you meant "this isn't a 2 opening"?

well it is IMO only but yes and if you think it is a 2 hand then it is idiotic to play forcing pass in this situation.

Sorry to labour this point, but when you said "X of 5 is totally idiotic" did you mean "Given the agreement that pass is forcing, and given that West had opened 2 on x KQxxxx xxx xxx, it would be totally idiotic to double 5"? Or did you mean something else?

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AJ

AJxxx

Q98x

Jx

 

 

you are vulnerable in 4th position

 

(pass)-2-(4)-5

(5)-X-(XX)

 

 

You have the ftable eeling that partner doubled because pass would be forcing, after reminding you to pass for the next 5 boards in competition what do you do?

P -- the lead problem might be tougher though.

 

Assuming sane opps, the 4 bidder must be void in s (742, 832).

 

If pard's X is based on say AQX of (besides values), we might very well be leading s into declarer's AKJX.

 

So, I am on lead, I would try a to see what dummy looks like...BTW, would pard X with a void in this situation?

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Fluffy, did you really mean that your reason for believing that partner thinks this a forcing-pass auction is "table feel"? If so, that can only have come from partner, so you have to treat this feeling as unauthorised information. The unauthorised information suggests bidding over passing, so you're obliged to pass.

playing with screens, my table feeling comes from RHO's face and redouble, and our problems in the past with similar sequences. However I ain't telling you that double was indeed weak, that was just my feeling a that time wich often proves wrong.

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diamond lead is a bit hopeless, where are you getting your 3 tricks? this time it at least stopped the overtrick

 

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I led a club thinking that my only hope was to find partner with A. I didn't even consider 6 hearts at the table, but it was the antidote, with a good guess you will collect only -500 losing 1 IMP to -480 at the other table.

 

diamond lead -1000

other lead -1200

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