MFA Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=skqt9h432d972c964]133|100|Scoring: IMPPass - (2♠) - X - (pass)??[/hv] 2♠ shows 7-10. They have a fertilizer available for the really crappy hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I would pass. Bidding almost surely leads to -100 or worse, so if they make it about one third of the time you are not doing so badly by passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 pass, I see no happiness down the road if I bid now. Thanks for all the spots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Pass, could be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 2NT scrambling. I am not going to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Happy to pass, aiming for the safe haven of -470 :) Anyway, they haven't made it yet (though they often will), and if the 2♠ bidder guarantees values it is very easy for RHO to double us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I scramble. I can construct too many hands where 2 ♠ makes. And I am not afraid that they can double so easily. East did not redouble and he does not know that his partner has his high cards outside spades. So he can count for at most one trick from partner and needs four in his own hand to double. Surely possible. But with such a hand 2 X is a disaster too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 What's this scrambling talk, people don't play lebensohl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=skqt9h432d972c964]133|100|Scoring: IMPPass - (2♠) - X - (pass)??[/hv] 2♠ shows 7-10. They have a fertilizer available for the really crappy hands. well it is either pass or 3♣. Having seen some of the TOX advocated here over 2 level preempts it is not going to be pretty. I try 3♣ it will be harder for RHO to X after his partner's preempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Pass. Likely that RHO will double us if we bid, and even if we do (assuming Lebensohl) I have no idea how we're ever going to find our fit...if we have any that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I have suffered enough 2♠x= or +1 on hands like this to not pass. Every lead up to dummy will work, and the trump finesse through me is marked. So we are getting two trumps on defense, and ... four side suit tricks? I doubt it. I choose 3♣ as the least of evils. -200 beats -470. Heck, -500 beats -570. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Pass, I don't really think this is close (especially at these colors). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I don't think righty doubles nearly as often as everyone suggests. I still pass, but I don't really like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 What's this 3C talk, people don't play lebensohl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 What's this 3C talk, people don't play lebensohl? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I swear on my life that I would have truly believed this would be unanimous for pass, in fact I was going to ask mfa why he posted it. I like the 2NT scrambling "I play whatever convention helps me most on the current hand even if no one plays it" convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I swear on my life that I would have truly believed this would be unanimous for pass,I agree (replacing your life with mine) - I am really surprised too. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I swear on my life that I would have truly believed this would be unanimous for pass,I agree (replacing your life with mine) - I am really surprised too. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Interesting. I guess I have something to learn here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted February 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s74haq75dk6caq832&w=saj6532ht6d84ck75&e=s8hkj98daqjt53cjt&s=skqt9h432d972c964]399|300|Scoring: IMPPass - (2♠) - X - (pass)Pass[/hv] Ok-ok, maybe the hand was more curious than it was difficult. I wanted to see if somebody would 'chicken out' in here. A few did.2♠ is maybe a favourite to make, but still it must be best to pass imo. A somewhat unusual situation. 2♠X was the final contract at 4 out of 12 tables, but declarer only went down at our table.Does anyone have a guess as to what might have happened at the other three tables in 2♠X where declarer took 8 tricks? Here it went ♦K to the ace.♠ to Q and ace.♠ to the 9.♣ through.2 club tricks, 1 heart trick and there was no trump coup at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I absolutely hate passing, but I don't see any reasonable alternative. Fully expecting to go -470. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=s74haq75dk6caq832&w=saj6532ht6d84ck75&e=s8hkj98daqjt53cjt&s=skqt9h432d972c964]399|300|Scoring: IMPPass - (2♠) - X - (pass)Pass[/hv] Ok-ok, maybe the hand was more curious than it was difficult. I wanted to see if somebody would 'chicken out' in here. A few did.2♠ is maybe a favourite to make, but still it must be best to pass imo. A somewhat unusual situation. 2♠X was the final contract at 4 out of 12 tables, but declarer only went down at our table.Does anyone have a guess as to what might have happened at the other three tables in 2♠X where declarer took 8 tricks? Here it went ♦K to the ace.♠ to Q and ace.♠ to the 9.♣ through.2 club tricks, 1 heart trick and there was no trump coup at the end. Interesting, the defense did get three trumps after all. Out of curiosity, what was north's plan if south bid 3♦? For example trade a spade from south's hand with a diamond spot from east's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Good hand for 2NT scrambling, they can't really double 3♣ to get their 500 or 800 :) So I hate to be weird or anything, and not saying I wouldn't (well I definitely wouldn't vul) but is there anything about west's balanced defensive hand with a bad suit that screams 'preempt'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 you don't need a hand that screams preempt to preempt. you just check which category fits your hand best. especially in a strong pass system it's not very easy not to preempt on some of these hands. anyway, even though I agree that it's not the best preempt in the world but favorable I would definitely bid 2♠ from W, whatever system I'm playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Good hand for 2NT scrambling, they can't really double 3♣ to get their 500 or 800 :) So I hate to be weird or anything, and not saying I wouldn't (well I definitely wouldn't vul) but is there anything about west's balanced defensive hand with a bad suit that screams 'preempt'? he wanted to use his license to steal before the expiration date passed :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 2♠X was the final contract at 4 out of 12 tables, but declarer only went down at our table.Does anyone have a guess as to what might have happened at the other three tables in 2♠X where declarer took 8 tricks? Maybe west can start hearts at trick three, to pitch clubs. Also north might have started a trump, many players consider that mandatory after a penalty pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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