Apollo81 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Vul against not, imps ♠x♥Jxx♦QJ♣QJTxxxx (1♠) p (4NT) 5♣(p) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I'll pass. One of the opps has to have a ♣ void.If LHO is bidding 4NT with a void, ....RHO's pass probably shows 1 ace if they play D0P1. They don't know yet that they can live with a missing ♣A and I won't tell them.If they bid on I can still bid 6 or 7 ♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Maybe partner is the one with the club void. :lol: I have seen stranger things. He bid 5♣ for the lead against a spade contract, planning to run to his long red suit if doubled. In any event, I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I never passed with 7 card support in my life and I am not starting today. This is a very simple-minded and flawed approach to bridge I guess but at least it deters partners from bidding 5♣ on AKx and out and think they are being funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 vul against not? lol. i'll raise to 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Pass. Partner has a club void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 too many indicators that pard is void in clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I too think p is the one with the void - pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Vul against not, imps ♠x♥Jxx♦QJ♣QJTxxxx (1♠) p (4NT) 5♣(p) ? Hmm... pard is either massively two suited with longer clubs or has a ♣ void is hoping I have a sense of humour. However, I don't think that the latter explanation carries much weight since a lightner X conveys the message if they do bid slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 A massive 2-suiter and the longest suit has 6 cards headed by the ace-king-empty? Vul against not? I don't think so. And there's also the fact that it doesn't sound like both opponents have a club void. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 why can you infer they both dont have a club void, han? i infered they don't have any agreement about what to do, and therefore probably are bad enough to keycard with voids, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Yeah I'd pass, it's not like bidding 6C now gains much, it takes some room away from them for trying to 7 and that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Maybe partner is the one with the club void. :lol: I hope that the original poster would have said, if he had a random partner or one with creative ideas. But you' re right I thought for a moment that the void could be held by a future ex-partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope that the original poster would have said, if he had a random partner or one with creative ideas. That would have spoiled it. BTW, CHO didn't have a club void Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Partner might have 5 clubs and 6 hearts for example and is willing to show both suits. Also LHO might be a joker here given the vulnerability. I'd pass for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Partner might have 5 clubs and 6 hearts for example and is willing to show both suits. Isn't that more than a bit nuts? At what level is partner going to be able to later show the longer hearts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 lol, what the ***** is going on. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Followup question for the passers: what are you doing over each of the following: 1. 5♠-P-P2. 5♠-X-P3. 6♠-P-P4. 6♠-X-P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 1) pass, I don't want to drive the to a making slam.2) 6♣, sorry partner but your ♣ tricks won't make.3) pass, going down is too expensive since they are white and we are red4) 7♣, now we can afford down 4 (may be down 5 is not a catastrophe) if they are making and partner should have more than ♣AK. Hope they make and are not overbidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pict Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I voted pass and now four more passes - are they off, making seven, don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Followup question for the passers: what are you doing over each of the following: 1. 5♠-P-P2. 5♠-X-P3. 6♠-P-P4. 6♠-X-P This does beg another follow up question: How many people who P can do so in tempo? Surely, most of us can't resist gawking at those 7♣ for at least a bit? How does a P after a long tank affect pard's ability to make another bid over say 5♠? Hopefully, the opps took some time to recollect their agreements over 4N - (5♣) and gave us some time to think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFormaini Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Vul against not, imps ♠x♥Jxx♦QJ♣QJTxxxx (1♠) p (4NT) 5♣(p) ?Bidding anything here is insane. Partner may, after all, be making a tactical bid with a CLUB void and a side suit for potential sacrifice if the opponents do not bid 7♠. Why try to mastermind? Partner may hold: [hv=s=sxxhkqjxxxxxxdxxc]133|100|[/hv] and be setting up the defense to a potential 7♠ call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 If I had to guess, I'd say partner has something like xxx AKTx void AKxxxx (and planning on bidding 5NT over 5♠, else doubling slam (yes it does strange to bid 4NT with KQxx x AKTxxxxx void) 6♣ followed by 7♣* if necessary for me. If partner has psyched, well, it might not be that bad, maybe we'll get out for 800 (+5 imps) or 1100 (-3 imps) if opps have slam on. Partner will run if he has a decent suit, if he doesn't, he's insane. * If partner doesn't double 6♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Quite frankly I have no idea! I suppose I will pass. Btw, the comment made above is the funniest one I think I have ever read on this forum:"Partner may, after all, be making a tactical bid with a CLUB void and a side suit for potential sacrifice if the opponents do not bid 7♠. Why try to mastermind?" Partner bids 5C with a void and I am masterminding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFormaini Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Quite frankly I have no idea! I suppose I will pass. Btw, the comment made above is the funniest one I think I have ever read on this forum:"Partner may, after all, be making a tactical bid with a CLUB void and a side suit for potential sacrifice if the opponents do not bid 7♠. Why try to mastermind?" Partner bids 5C with a void and I am masterminding? Ah yes - another bridge neophyte who has no idea what they are talking about. Perhaps you should look up 'tactics' in a dictionary. You would then learn that there is far more to the game of bridge than you can imagine - or, apparently, conceptualize. :rolleyes: FYI - experts often use such tactical bids. (Would be happy to cite numerous examples in the literature - but then, I doubt you have much bridge lterature to consult). That's why they are experts (and will obtain a PLUS SCORE on said hand) - and you are, well, at the level you occupy. (and will achieve some NEGATIVE score measure din the 100s. :D Oh - BTW: "ArtK78: Maybe partner is the one with the club void. smile.gifI have seen stranger things. He bid 5♣ for the lead against a spade contract, planning to run to his long red suit if doubled.In any event, I pass. " Funny - ArtK78 said precisely the same thing - before I did. Yet you did not find it amusing? Apparently your retention skills rival your bridge tactical skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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