3S or 3N

[rogerclee]

w/r

 

KQxxxx AQx KJx x

 

P 3D ?

 

At IMPs? At MPs?

[whereagles]

3♠. Pard probably has a couple of spades and will raise this with a non-worthless hand.

[jdonn]

Really?

[JohnnyH7]

Is 4S an option with this hand? I see many hands that partner can pass 3S with that make game, especially in the "6-7 HCP" range that we're supposed to play partner for when they preempt.

[Codo]

3 ♠ and partner surely raises with support.

[karlson]

3♠ at mp for sure. At imps, I don't think it's a wtp, but I'd bid 3♠ still.

[gnasher]

Is 4S an option with this hand? I see many hands that partner can pass 3S with that make game, especially in the "6-7 HCP" range that we're supposed to play partner for when they preempt.

I don't think you should assume a 6-7 count where everything is working. Axx xxxx xx Kxxx will look like a nice 7-count to partner, but game is hopeless.

[matmat]

i know what i think =)

[Codo]

I don't think you should assume a 6-7 count where everything is working. Axx xxxx xx Kxxx will look like a nice 7-count to partner, but game is hopeless.

And I would raise with this hand 3 ♠ to four....

[the hog]

3S. I can't believe that this isn't unanimous.

[lamford]

Is 4S an option with this hand? I see many hands that partner can pass 3S with that make game, especially in the "6-7 HCP" range that we're supposed to play partner for when they preempt.

I don't think you should assume a 6-7 count where everything is working. Axx xxxx xx Kxxx will look like a nice 7-count to partner, but game is hopeless.

I don't think hopeless is the word I would use, especially if the red pre-emptor has something like x Kxx AQTxxxx xx when game is cold despite the diamond ruff. Come to think of it, given that he is unlikely to have two aces in front of partner, but opened 3D second in hand, this is quite a likely hand for him.

 

And swap partner's rounded suits around and game is almost solid. But I would bid 3S on the hand as well; I can blame partner when she raises with the wrong hand.

[jjbrr]

cleeeeeeeeeee

[hotShot]

3♠ and I trust partner to make a good choice.

[fachiru]

I'm going againts the flow here with 3N.

[rogerclee]

At the table at MP I did bid 3N and went down 2 (could have been 3). It was a weird average minus; partner had AJTxx Jxx xxx Jx, and the opponents are cold for 5C (LHO is 1606).

 

For what it's worth I gave this hand at MP to three friends of mine (including two national champions) and everyone thought 3N was reasonable, but two of them preferred 3S and one had no strong opinion.

[jdonn]

For what it's worth I gave this hand at MP to three friends of mine (including two national champions) and everyone thought 3N was reasonable, but two of them preferred 3S and one had no strong opinion.

From what I know you gave this hand to 1 national champion (not saying there weren't more of course, just talking about what I'm aware of) and he gave it to another national champion, and both laughed at 3NT. But one thought 4♠ was reasonable.

[hanp]

cleeeeeeeeeee

Agree with Jeremy.

[rogerclee]

For what it's worth I gave this hand at MP to three friends of mine (including two national champions) and everyone thought 3N was reasonable, but two of them preferred 3S and one had no strong opinion.

From what I know you gave this hand to 1 national champion (not saying there weren't more of course, just talking about what I'm aware of) and he gave it to another national champion, and both laughed at 3NT. But one thought 4♠ was reasonable.

Yes I forgot about him, and the only people who came to mind were the 3 people I was talking to at the regional where this occurred. To be complete I should have included our mutual national champion friend, who thought 3N was absurd.

[Jlall]

Mutual friends opinion doesn't count for much when he is a 4S bidder though... o wait that's me.