Bid These

[kfay]

[hv=d=n&n=skxxhakqdq10xxxxxc&s=s10xxxh109xxdakcakx]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

[helene_t]

1♦-1♥

3♦-4♦*

5♣**-blahblahblah

 

*forcing, 4♣ would be CoG

**exclusion

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

1D (1) - 1H

2D (2) - 3NT (3)

4D (4) - 5C (5)

5D (6) - Pass (7)

 

(1) SAYC style

(2) the suit is not good, it is a 7 carder, but ..., AKQ is also not

brilliant, ok it is since it is in p suit, but I dont think I would bid 3D

(3) due to a lack of alternatives, 3D being NF, and I have a bal. hand

(4) ... or Pass, 3NT should show at least 2 diamonds, so we have a

9 card fit, but Pass is an real option

(5) First round control, denies first / second round control in the majors

should also show some life, but not necessarilly AK in diamonds

(6) The Ace of spades is missing, p will have a top honor in diamonds, but

both? And the club values are pure wastage

(7) one did everything one could

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[hanp]

If north rebids 3D south will drive to slam. If north rebids 2D it will be tough.

 

With such potential for diamonds I think it is a good to rebid 3D.

[fachiru]

I would rebid only 2♦ as N; not really against 3♦, but if p. can bid again, I'll be way better placed. My plan is to show ♥ support after anything prd. bids, including 3nt. This has to show a distributional hand with extra values.

 

Prd, looking at his prime values, may well be driving for ♦ slam via some Q-bidding starting with 5♣.

[jdonn]

I hate to be the guy that justifies a bid this way, but it's a 4 loser hand. Don't losing-trick-count-gurus site a 7 loser hand as a minimum opening bid? I just don't see rebidding 2♦.

 

Btw if I did rebid 2♦ and partner bid 3NT I would bid 4♥ as north. I still wouldn't see myself finding slam though.

[Jlall]

If north rebids 3D south will drive to slam. If north rebids 2D it will be tough.

 

With such potential for diamonds I think it is a good to rebid 3D.

rebidding 2D would be absurd

[kayin801]

This might be a touch cooked, but...

 

1♦ (2+, big club style) - 1♥

3♦ (good max, 7 card suit or great 6) - 3♠ (forcing, stopper ask/diamond slam try)

3NT - 6NT (partner bid 3♦ missing the AK of diamonds and clubs?! He's gotta have controls in both majors and likely one ace, I can't construct a hand that would rebid 3♦ where 6♦/6NT won't have a chance)

 

Maybe try 4♦ after 3NT instead, then exclusion etc...

 

I'm also unsure whether I'd open that a big club or not, but I can describe my hand by rebidding 3♦ so I'm content with that.

 

My standard auction is the same as Helene's.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

the reason I prefer 2D over 3D is actually, that I dont want p

to bid 3NT with an more or less arbitary 8 count.

I think a 3D bid will lead to a lot of hopeless games, but the hand

is certainly a max. for 2D, maybe super max.

 

It would be a slightly different story, if the 3D rebid would show

6 diamonds and 3 hearts, if this agreement would been in place,

I would rebid 3D instead of 2D.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Fluffy]

I hate to be the guy that justifies a bid this way, but it's a 4 loser hand. Don't losing-trick-count-gurus site a 7 loser hand as a minimum opening bid? I just don't see rebidding 2♦.

 

Btw if I did rebid 2♦ and partner bid 3NT I would bid 4♥ as north. I still wouldn't see myself finding slam though.

I am counting 2.5 * 2.5 for a total of 5, I am normall the guy who counts the les losers :lol:.

 

The hand is very rare, I might land in slam but not for the right reasons.