McBruce Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Opener's 2NT call is passed by LHO and partner responds 2♥. Away from the table, offender says she confused two strong bids and thought partner had opened 2♣! 2♥ was meant to show a hand lacking an ace or king pver 2♣. Back at the table, TD says the first option for opener's RHO is to accept 2♥; if not accepted, the 2♥ will be canceled and replaced with a legal call; whatever that call is, opener must pass throughout. Opener's RHO does not accept. The 2♥ call disappears and offender now passes. RHO now realizes she would be better off to accept, holding ♥KQJxxx, and double for a lead, but I assume nobody is going to let her change her mind at this point, right? RHO finally decides to bid 3♥, which goes for the matchpoints kiss of death, 200. Has the offending side gained via the insufficient bid? Any reason to adjust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 the opening 2NT side has gained because 4th chair made a bid that cost a lot of matchpoints. The fact that opener was barred, is sort of irrelevent because responder wanted to pass anyway. Self-inflicted injuries are not insured, or IMO, shouldn't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 27D does not apply here, because it was a 27B2 correction, and 27D only applies to 27B1 corrections. And no, opener's RHO made her choice, she's stuck with it. I see no reason to adjust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy4hoop Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Concur with both views above... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bixby Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Because Law 27D does not apply (as Blackshoe pointed out), it seems that redress would have to come from Law 23. The predicate for such redress includes that the offender "could have been aware at the time of his irregularity that this could well damage the non-offending side." That seems highly unlikely in this case, so I wouldn't adjust even if the insufficient bid seemed to be the primary cause of the bad result -- which, as others have pointed out, it doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Opener's RHO had his chance to accept 2H and Dbl it for the lead. He chose not to accept . Tere is nothing to adjust or rectify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejak Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Opener's RHO does not accept. The 2♥ call disappears and offender now passes. RHO now realizes she would be better off to accept, holding ♥KQJxxx, and double for a lead, but I assume nobody is going to let her change her mind at this point, right? RHO finally decides to bid 3♥, which goes for the matchpoints kiss of death, 200. Has the offending side gained via the insufficient bid? Any reason to adjust?Correct Yes No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campboy Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Eh? How has the OS gained from the IB? I don't see any reason to think the auction would have been different without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Let us suppose that the OS have no agreements for the auction 2NT-(P)-2♥, and the 2♥ bid is accepted. The auction continues without penalty, OK, but opener must guess what the 2♥ bid means. Is he ever actually going to get away with guessing correctly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Let us suppose that the OS have no agreements for the auction 2NT-(P)-2♥, and the 2♥ bid is accepted. The auction continues without penalty, OK, but opener must guess what the 2♥ bid means. Is he ever actually going to get away with guessing correctly? Nah, he just bids 2n again and hopefully this time partner doesn't respond 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campboy Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I would think it would be a reasonable idea for opener to rebid 2♠; most of the time 2♥ will have been intended as a transfer, so this gives partner a chance to pass a level lower or invite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Nah, he just bids 2n again and hopefully this time partner doesn't respond 2♥.Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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