What do you open and how do you follow up?

[Dirk Kuijt]

[hv=d=w&v=n&s=skt53hkqt7652d5ck]133|100|Scoring: MP

The bidding goes:

P-P-P-?

 

The follow up: If you open 1♥ it goes P-1♠-P-? Now what are you worth?[/hv]

[PFormaini]

[hv=d=w&v=n&s=skt53hkqt7652d5ck]133|100|Scoring: MP

The bidding goes:

P-P-P-?

 

The follow up: If you open 1♥ it goes P-1♠-P-? Now what are you worth?[/hv]

A lot is going to depend on System, but I would:

 

1. Open 1 HEART.

 

2. Rebid 3 HEARTS over partner's 1 SPADE.

[Hanoi5]

Probably wrong but I'll bid 4♠.

[gwnn]

I open 4♥, I am a simple soul and don't mind overbidding every once in a while.

[ochinko]

I don't have a single Ace, partner has at most two. Slam requires both a perfect hand from partner and a bad defense. Why then give a chance for opps to get in the bidding? Just open 4♥, and be done with it.

[Fluffy]

yep, 4♥ not perfect because of the stiff King, but opponents will have a blind lead.

[gnasher]

I think this is a 3♥ bid in fourth seat. That will be high enough to keep the opponents out, but invites partner to bid game with a suitable hand, eg one with two aces.

 

We might miss some games where he has a perfect spade holding like QJx, but we'll gain on the more frequent occasions when his slow values are in the minors instead.

[jdonn]

I agree with 3♥ in 4th seat. Consider that there could be two heart losers as well and I don't want to go too crazy. Also this is plenty of preemption considering I don't mind if they bid spades, the opponents are both almost sure to stay out at this high of a level.

[Jlall]

I would just bid 1H. I have spades so I'm not concerned with preempting them at all. I am more worried about playing 3H-1 when I could have played 2H than I am about the opps bidding 4 of a minor.

 

4H seems lol, we need a ton for game and we're playing MP, why just decide to go minus a huge portion of the time in 4th seat when we usually get to game by opening 1H anyways?

[hrothgar]

I would just bid 1H. I have spades so I'm not concerned with preempting them at all. I am more worried about playing 3H-1 when I could have played 2H than I am about the opps bidding 4 of a minor.

 

4H seems lol, we need a ton for game and we're playing MP, why just decide to go minus a huge portion of the time in 4th seat when we usually get to game by opening 1H anyways?

Justin raises what I THINK is the critical point:

 

In order to beat "Pass Out" we need to guaruntee ourselves a positive score. We aren't trying to jam the opponent's auction or make a reasonable pre-sac against their 4m partial.

 

We need to go positive to beat "Pass"

[MFA]

I would just bid 1H. I have spades so I'm not concerned with preempting them at all. I am more worried about playing 3H-1 when I could have played 2H than I am about the opps bidding 4 of a minor.

 

4H seems lol, we need a ton for game and we're playing MP, why just decide to go minus a huge portion of the time in 4th seat when we usually get to game by opening 1H anyways?

Justin raises what I THINK is the critical point:

 

In order to beat "Pass Out" we need to guaruntee ourselves a positive score. We aren't trying to jam the opponent's auction or make a reasonable pre-sac against their 4m partial.

 

We need to go positive to beat "Pass"

I think that's too academic when we can say with almost 100% certainty, that "all pass" will be the result at 0 of the other tables. So that can't really be the score to beat.