kgr Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 [hv=d=s&s=sxxxhakqxxxdxcatx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]1♥-1♠?? You play a rather standard system here, (only special is that you can bid 2♣ forcing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 3H, after partner's 1S response this seems right on values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 2♥, I have 13 points. Ok it's really good for that but 3♥ will reach lots of bad games too. Some will hate it but I also think 2♣ is worth considering, but how can I do that with so much interest in both majors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Well OK but what does 2♣ promise besides that you would like partner not to pass? In particular, how strong a 1 suiter could it encompass? Could you post some structure here? (am I opening pandora's box? :P) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I like bidding 3♥ on this type of hand. The downside of course is that a) partner has to be aware this is what a 3♥ jump can look like, and :P you need another way to show a really bid hand with six hearts since 3♥ is limited. I have the luxury of doing that while playing Polish, but not in SA or 2/1. @gwnn: I'm going to guess that OP is playing Gazzilli here, which does indeed free up all the jump rebids to cover the 14-16ish shapely hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 3H, after partner's 1S response this seems right on values. ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 @ Siegmund: if you had read some kgr threads about his methods you would know better than assume that he plays something standard (here by standard I mean something played by more than 1000 players) :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Well OK but what does 2♣ promise besides that you would like partner not to pass? In particular, how strong a 1 suiter could it encompass? Could you post some structure here? (am I opening pandora's box? :P) It is only forcing because you use 3♣ as a splinter. So basically 2♣ is the same as standard, but it is forcing instead of almost forcing. @gwnn: I'm going to guess that OP is playing Gazzilli here, which does indeed free up all the jump rebids to cover the 14-16ish shapely hands. No. (I don't know Gazzilli, but I don't think that we play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 If you bid 3♥: I understand that 2♥ does not feel right with 7 tricks, but what is the limit for 2♥? Would you also rebid 3♥ with:♠xxx♥AQJxxx♦x♣AKT or with: ♠xxx♥AKJxxx♦x♣AJT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Just 2H for me, it is a good 13 but...its still a 6331 13. Sorry to count points :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Just 2H for me, it is a good 13 but...its still a 6331 13. Sorry to count points :)Next thing you'll be using RKC . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 [hv=d=s&s=sxxxhakqxxxdxcatx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]1♥-1♠?? You play a rather standard system here, (only special is that you can bid 2♣ forcing) Assuming your subject line is a question, yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dealer: South Vul: ???? Scoring: IMP ♠ xxx ♥ AKQxxx ♦ x ♣ ATx 1♥-1♠?? You play a rather standard system here, (only special is that you can bid 2♣ forcing) Assuming your subject line is a question, yes! 2 or 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Just 2H for me, it is a good 13 but...its still a 6331 13. Sorry to count points :) ♠ xxx♥ AKQ?xx♦ x♣ ATx Would you bid 3♥ with ♥J or ♥T? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 <!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> South </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> ???? </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> xxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> AKQxxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> x </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> ATx </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->1♥-1♠?? You play a rather standard system here, (only special is that you can bid 2♣ forcing) Assuming your subject line is a question, yes! 2 or 3 not quite enough for 3 IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 7 tricks most of the time, routine 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 13 HCPS all of the time, routine 2 ♥. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Won't partner take another bid with 10-11 over 2H? What am I missing? Good suit to be trumps if partial, partner upping most 10+ hands if game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 2♥. Sometimes, we're allowed to have a maximum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted January 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Won't partner take another bid with 10-11 over 2H? What am I missing? Good suit to be trumps if partial, partner upping most 10+ hands if game. yes, bu he will pass with eg 2 aces?♠Axxx♥xx♦Axxx ♣xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Won't partner take another bid with 10-11 over 2H? What am I missing? Good suit to be trumps if partial, partner upping most 10+ hands if game. yes, bu he will pass with eg 2 aces?♠Axxx♥xx♦Axxx ♣xxx Are you really suggesting bidding 3NT over 3♥ with that, rather than 4♥? That hand is a perfect reason to rebid 2♥, you will go plus instead of minus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 2H. I can be maximum sometimes, can't I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I bid 2H - sure, it's a good 2H but it's still only worth 2H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Definitely 3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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