frouu Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 [hv=d=n&s=skxxhxxdxxckqjxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-p-1NT-p2♦-p-?[/hv] playing 2/1, (1nt was forcing)2♥ or 3♣? Maybe the real question is, when you have 2 card ♥ support, with what hands do you bid 3♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 3C. I don't know about the in-between cases of suit quality, but xx in hearts and KQJxxx of clubs is a very extreme difference. When it's highly possible your hand will just take 0 tricks in hearts, and you have 6 good clubs, I would prefer to play 3C. I wouldn't seriously consider 2N, it needs too much to work in my opinion. Starting with an invitational 3C instead of bidding 1N would have been fine (if you play that), but our hand has actually gotten worse from partner's 2D rebid anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 At MPs you might be willing to consider 2H, given your potential side entry. If you had a weaker hand (no potential entry outside clubs) the case for 3C would be more compelling. It is probably the right bid anyway at imps. If you had any honour in hearts, or if you had the CAQ instead of KQJ, I would be willing to play 2H even at imp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 3♣ at imps, 3♣ at mp's. a plus score is better than a minus score. of course 3♣ is a little underbid but it's better than the hideous 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Just want to add that I agree with gwnn, bidding 2H is a mistake at matchpoints as well in my (strong) opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Definitely 3♣ for me too. But I'd like to be able to use 2♠ to show this hand type (among others). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I have a good 6 card suit so I bid it and much prefer it to likely putting pard into a 5-2 ♥ fit, even if that is 1 level lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 [hv=d=n&s=skxxhxxdxxckqjxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-p-1NT-p2♦-p-?[/hv] playing 2/1, (1nt was forcing)2♥ or 3♣? Maybe the real question is, when you have 2 card ♥ support, with what hands do you bid 3♣? for me easy 2h 3c for me would be invitational. I have no way to show a weak hand with long clubs on this type of auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 [hv=d=n&s=skxxhxxdxxckqjxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-p-1NT-p2♦-p-?[/hv] playing 2/1, (1nt was forcing)2♥ or 3♣? Maybe the real question is, when you have 2 card ♥ support, with what hands do you bid 3♣? for me easy 2h 3c for me would be invitational. I have no way to show a weak hand with long clubs on this type of auction. I don't normally do this in the B/I forum, but if that is your agreement, I suggest you play instead 1H-1N2D-? 2S forces 2N...3C = 6+C, inv...3D =D raise, strong invite...3H = some kind of heart raise, either 3 card limit raise or Hx and a sharp hand, etc3C = weak with clubs3D = weaker invite in D3H = H raise, whatever you decided doesnt go through 2S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 [hv=d=n&s=skxxhxxdxxckqjxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♥-p-1NT-p2♦-p-?[/hv] playing 2/1, (1nt was forcing)2♥ or 3♣? Maybe the real question is, when you have 2 card ♥ support, with what hands do you bid 3♣? for me easy 2h 3c for me would be invitational. I have no way to show a weak hand with long clubs on this type of auction. I don't normally do this in the B/I forum, but if that is your agreement, I suggest you play instead 1H-1N2D-? 2S forces 2N...3C = 6+C, inv...3D =D raise, strong invite...3H = some kind of heart raise, either 3 card limit raise or Hx and a sharp hand, etc3C = weak with clubs3D = weaker invite in D3H = H raise, whatever you decided doesnt go through 2S yes ty we have discussed this before but ty. I think it works if partners could remember it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Normally with 2-6 you should bid 2H. However with this hand you should bid 3C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hi, 2H. I doubt I would ever bid 3C with 2 card support and a 6 card, make it a 7 card,..., and I will alway bid my suit. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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