mohitz Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Q9x x AJT987 T8x Second seat, w/r. 2D or 3D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Pass. no problem yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 2♦ , if you happen to play that as weak and natural.Pass if you don't. I think second seat preempts should be "classical" even w/r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 2D for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 2D. Depending on your preempt style, a preempt promises ta most -3 or -4 down.If you play at most -3, I would say, you have to pass, if -4, you have a fairlysound 2D, and since you are in 2nd seat, your preempts should be basically rock solid book bids, ... but even 4 tricks are slightly optimistic, but you canthave it all. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 2♦, but I'm afraid I'd open 3♦ if 2♦ wasn't available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 2D, but I have no problem with 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 3♦, don't really like 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 If 2 ♦ is a weak two, why do you ask? OF course you can ask whether it is better to play 2 ♦ as something else, like a very weak 5 card suit, or as a two suiter.But if you explain 2 ♦ as a weak two (6 cards) with 6-9 HCPS and some stuff in the suit, this hand is close to prototypical. I open this 3 ♦ my standard partner would pass- both of us have no 2♦ weak two avaiable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossoneri Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 2♦, wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I am really sound in second position latelly, so I might even pass this if 2♦ is not avaible. If its avaible its a quite normal 2♦ bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 By the way, with my regular partner I would have to choose between 2C (weak with diamonds or strong) and 3D, I would go with 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Wow I must be getting old or something. I've never seen a clearer 2♦ bid in my life. I would bid 3♦ if I had a 7th ♦, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 2♦ is an absolutely normal bid. I think 3♦ just donates going down too often in second seat, 2♦ already gives them more problems than people realize. Besides what are the arguments for 3♦ > 2♦ that don't also apply to 4♦ > 3♦? Frankly I want to mention I have seen it be wrong to 'overpreempt' in 1st or 2nd seat on a hand that is 'normal' for a certain preempt so many times that I'm fully convinced it's a loser. I think this is something that even some experts really overdo. Favorable vul doesn't mean you avoid making normal bids when you have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Q9x x AJT987 T8x Second seat, w/r. 2D or 3D? This is too good for 3♦ so I would settle for 2♦ :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegill Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Why would I open this 3♦ in 2nd seat when I have 2♦ available? If I had to choose between 3♦ and pass, I would at least consider (but ultimately reject) 3♦, but surely there's no reason to go crazy here. The strong hand is 50/50 to be partner's, why do I want to lie to him? 1st seat fav, yeah I might jack it up another level, and I'm sure I would in 3rd seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I would open 3♦ in 1st seat, favorable with Qx x AJT987 T8xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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