bd71 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=sajxxhaqjtxxxdxcx]133|100|Scoring: IMPRHO opens a 15-17 1N. Your agreed interference method is DONT.What's your move? If you happen to double (showing one-suited hand), LHO bids 3N after a 30-second pause, and it's passed back to you. What now?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 ditto again... 4h if this shows hearts. never double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Kuijt Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Yes, double (showing a one-suiter) playing DONT. 7-4-1-1 hands need to be played in the long suit. Unfortunately, responder's 3NT is likely based on a long minor suit, so I'm hardly confident of beating this. However, red vs. white, I can easily go for 500 in 4H, and they aren't a lock for 3NT, so I'm not going to sacrifice. I'm leading the ♥Q and hoping that partner has a little stuff in the minors that prevents them from taking 8 minor suit tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I really have no idea why one would play a X as a one suited hand. What have you told partner?To be honest, I would probably bid an immediate 4H over 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 ditto again... 4h if this shows hearts. never double. I agree. 4H.It must be close contest between DONT and CAPP for the worst agreement ever to make it as popular convention. Seriously DONT play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I really have no idea why one would play a X as a one suited hand. What have you told partner?To bid 2♣ so you can tell him your suit (though not on this hand of course). What is your objection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 To bid 2♣ so you can tell him your suit (though not on this hand of course). What is your objection? The objection is that if they bid something at 3 level (or even 2level) your partner is never able to compete because you can have any suit.Probably playing double as one major (which is quite silly) is much better than playing double as any one suiter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 To bid 2♣ so you can tell him your suit (though not on this hand of course). What is your objection? The objection is that if they bid something at 3 level (or even 2level) your partner is never able to compete because you can have any suit.Probably playing double as one major (which is quite silly) is much better than playing double as any one suiter. There is the same objection to 2♣ one suit, double some combination of 2 suits, 2♦ one major, etc. I mean you can play all natural over 1NT or landy or something, but playing some bids that take a round to unwind isn't that unusual. Besides what are they likely to bid on the 3 level when we wanted to play in some suit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 The only real problem with both DONT and CAPP (especially DONT) is that people abuse them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I really have no idea why one would play a X as a one suited hand. What have you told partner?To bid 2♣ so you can tell him your suit (though not on this hand of course). What is your objection? I think that the double is far too easily pre empted Josh. Say you have H, for example and it goes (1NT) x (2S) It is going to be a bit hard to get the H fit, if you even have one.I really dislike this x to show a single suiter. Yes, I have the same objection to 2C showing any s/s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hi, #1 it is either double, which is ok, or 3H Given the vulnerability, your hand looks roughly like a 3H bid. #2 Pass, if I decided to double 1NT, I will pass 3NT, bidding 4H is asking for 500-800, I will never reach dummy. I will loose 2 tricks in the minors, 1 heart and 2-3 spades makes 500-800 vs. their 400. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 There is the same objection to 2♣ one suit, double some combination of 2 suits, 2♦ one major, etc. I mean you can play all natural over 1NT or landy or something, but playing some bids that take a round to unwind isn't that unusual. Besides what are they likely to bid on the 3 level when we wanted to play in some suit?I agree that all defences to 1NT have strengths and weaknesses. One could equally ask "Why would I play a defence to 1NT where I have to be willing to play at the three-level if I'm going to show a major-minor two-suiter?" I do think, though, that defences like DONT do better than they should, because people don't exploit these weaknesses. Over something that shows an unspecified one-suiter, there's a good case for playing 3♣ and 3♦ as to play. If advancer has support for one major but not the other, he won't be very well placed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hi, #1 it is either double, which is ok, or 3H Given the vulnerability, your hand looks roughly like a 3H bid. #2 Pass, if I decided to double 1NT, I will pass 3NT, bidding 4H is asking for 500-800, I will never reach dummy. I will loose 2 tricks in the minors, 1 heart and 2-3 spades makes 500-800 vs. their 400. With kind regardsMarlowe Who says you will never reach dummy Uwe? Opp opened 1NT 15-17, you have 12. That still leaves 11 points at least out. Why cant pd have something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I agree that my modified dont....very close to meckwell...gets insanely good results..... As i get horrible results i am open to changing it. Please note it is not a matter of if but a matter of when...down the years...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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