gwnn Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 1♦-p-1♠-p2♦-2NT!!! what's this? 2NT originally would have been 55 in ♥+♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Dunno - presume dbl is undiscussed? Guess it might be intended as 4-6, or as some kind of 5-5 unsuitable for action initially - maybe 6-5 with fewer points? Just guessing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 DNE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 2NT in this situation is a specialized bid designed to put your, and your partner's, heads on the chopping block after letting the opponents have one round of bidding to figure out they have a possible misfit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 1♦-p-1♠-p2♦-2NT!!! what's this? 2NT originally would have been 55 in ♥+♣. BID again easy now if I just know what the heck my suits are . C'est la vie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 certainment mr. mike: AKJTxxAxxxxxx Que pensez-vous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Why did I pass over 1♠? B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 1♦-p-1♠-p2♦-2NT!!! what's this? 2NT originally would have been 55 in ♥+♣. Maybe this shows a decent 2=2=3=6 hands that when you resort just before your second call doesn't need to have two separate heart suits and is actually 2=5=0=6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hi, 2NT is still hearts and clubs, ..., lets say 5-4, high tech at work.It may make sense to play 2H in this seq. as 4 hearts, 5 clubs, and2NT as 5 hearts , 4 clubs. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Why did I pass over 1♠? :( Well, better to ask, why did you pass over 1D.I could understand a pass over 1S, assuming I had not discussed 2S, although dont ask me, why I would now make a undiscussed 2NT, butthat is live. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I know about 4 years ago we discussed with this partner a special structure whereby x was 4-4 1N was 4-5 and some other things but I couldn't remember if 2S was natural or in that crazy structure... Well I actually think we gave up the structure but as we hadn't played for at least 1.5 years I just thought pass would lead to an easier auction. Little did I know... :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hi, 2NT is still hearts and clubs, ..., lets say 5-4, high tech at work.It may make sense to play 2H in this seq. as 4 hearts, 5 clubs, and2NT as 5 hearts , 4 clubs. With kind regardsMarlowe So you are forcing to the 3 level on a 4-5 shape? heiliger Hammelbraten! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 certainment mr. mike: AKJTxxAxxxxxx Que pensez-vous? Please let us back up If 2nt is the common expert BWS bid with your hand ok.... At the very least please let me assume pard(you) is bidding BWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I would need at least 10 cards in the rounded suits, preferably 11, to force to the 3-level now that I would have offered 2♥ by doubling or 2♥. Maybe a 4-7 that wouldn't preempt due to the 4-card hearts and too weak for 2♣. Maybe a 5-6 with really awful hearts and outside the agree range(s) for a 2NT overcall. Most likely partner is drunk or something. With your 6-card spades I would pass now. If double gets passed back to me I bid 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Partner has a 1444 strong with no bid avaible on previous round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 mike777 not sure what you're asking. your partner bid a "retarded" (another French word) 2NT and then you have the spades hand that I gave you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 2NT does not exist. I suspect partner has 4 hearts and 6+ clubs, fairly weak. This hand also shows why one should bid 2S with the given hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I learned from R/S btw that x is 1444 good hand... not sure how standard that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I learned from R/S btw that x is 1444 good hand... not sure how standard that is 1444 is too specific IMHO. But some people (including Fred) suggested (in the thread about 2-way doubles) that it might be t/o of spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 yes I meant generalized 1444. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hi, 2NT is still hearts and clubs, ..., lets say 5-4, high tech at work.It may make sense to play 2H in this seq. as 4 hearts, 5 clubs, and2NT as 5 hearts , 4 clubs. With kind regardsMarlowe So you are forcing to the 3 level on a 4-5 shape? heiliger Hammelbraten! No, and of course I have discussed, that X over 2D is for T/O. And even if I would force to the 3 level with 54, I would have done this a round before, I agree, not everyones cup of coffee, but given the right vul., why not, they nned to catch you.They get their chance, to know about the possibile 54, if they ever ask, butwill they be able? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 yes I meant generalized 1444. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 bravo, gonzalo :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 what do you mean? xJTxxxxAQTxxx was partner's hand (favorable at imps). I passed like Helene suggested and told my p that I am going to pass most bids that I don't understand (that wasn't the only reason I passed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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