cnszsun Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=sa10xxxhxdxxxxcajx]133|100|Scoring: IMPps-1♥1♠-2♣??[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Kuijt Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 I saw a similar hand in a magazine recently. Pass, 2♥, 2♠, and 3♣ all got votes. I'm going with 3♣, despite being short a trump (which was the plurality vote on the magazine panel). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 2h. hate, 3c.....I am way too weak If we have a shot at 3nt or 5c or 4s pard will rebid otherwise I want to slow it down. Too strong to pass, I want to give pard a chance for a third bid. 1h=1s=2c is quite a very wide range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 2D as a passed hand is probably fine if played as 4sf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 yeh, I try 2d.....and hope pard knows what's happening. Why shouldn't she? alternative of passing 2C doesn't seem necessary with this passed-hand. If partner were in 1st or 2nd seat, I would barf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 2h undiscussed I would never try 2d Pard may play me for weak 4s and 6d. I am a passed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 mike: If you were not a passed hand, how would you handle a weak 4-6 in the pointed suits? Don't answer that, just do the same thing as a passed hand. Then that leaves 2D available for this hand, at this juncture, by a passed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 If I am an unpassed hand with 4s and 6d and weak I will just lose the d suit. I will never bid diamonds. My other option when weak is to rebid 3d(invite) and pray partner passes. 1h=1s2c=? If I am a passed hand, now I can rebid 2d natural 4-6 etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=sa10xxxhxdxxxxcajx]133|100|Scoring: IMPps-1♥1♠-2♣??[/hv] I stole my call out of everybody else's bidding box so they were forced to bid over 2♣ while I could pass :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 2 ♦ luckily I have passed before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 If I were not a passed hand I would bid 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 3♣, unless playing with someone who likes to rebid 2♣ on a 2533 that belongs to our notrump range. In which case I would try 2♦ as a passed hand and bid 2♠ as an unpassed hand. With 4♠6♦ I would respond 1NT, assuming that we don't play BART or Gazilli or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 With 4♠6♦ I would respond 1NT, assuming that we don't play BART or Gazilli or anything. I would not do this unless it was a very unusual hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 If I were not a passed hand I would bid 2S. I would bid 3♣ in that case. But no matter what it's potentially unpleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hi, Since you are a passed hand, you can bid 2D.2D is still FSF, but since you did not open ... The alternative is to pass. The decision is depend how regular you expect partner to raise1S to 2S, when he is holding 3 card support, if he "always" raises,than there is a lot to be said for Passing, since you wont have a 5-3fit in spades very often. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I play a style where 2♦ here is just 1R forcing, so that's my bid. Will pass 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I play a style where 2♦ is only forcing 1 round too. And this hand looks like a passwtp to me at IMPs. MAYBE at MPs you could persuade me to fish for a spade contract, but I might be losing more in 2NT/3♣ than I am gaining in 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 wtp? the p is that we could be on for slam and we're playing on the 2 level. seriously you don't see a problem with that? KxAKxxxxKQxxx there are millions of hands where we have game on... 2♣ is not limited to 13 hcp, contrary to popular belief. jumping to 3♣ or bidding 2NT is not acceptable on random 17 counts, contrary to popular belief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 No, its not limited to 13 HCP; but I sure hope it's not routinely a 4-loser hand! If you play sound openings I'll believe there is a 35 or 40% chance of a game in the hand somewhere, so I can see why the "vulnerable at IMPs gong" is sounding. My own style is to lighter openings (a majority of 11s) and sounder responses (5HCP about once in 3-5 sessions) than many... so I feel like I'm giving up more like a 25% chance of game along with a modest chance of 2S being a better partscore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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