jh51 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 [hv=d=e&v=e&n=s63h86dk873ct9852&w=sq842h93djt62cj76&e=skj5hakqjt742d9c3&s=sat97h5daq54cakq4]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] Can anyone figure out how my partner and I defeated 3♥ on this hand? No, declarer did not revoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 [hv=d=e&v=e&n=s63h86dk873ct9852&w=sq842h93djt62cj76&e=skj5hakqjt742d9c3&s=sat97h5daq54cakq4]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] Can anyone figure out how my partner and I defeated 3♥ on this hand? No, declarer did not revoke. declarer has to discard 2♠ on 2 minor suit winners ["OH MY! I thought I was playing NT"] :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Can anyone figure out how my partner and I defeated 3♥ on this hand? No, declarer did not revoke. NO :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 you played against morons? well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Obv after ruffing the 2nd round of clubs declarer took his/her 8 winners to escape for down 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpace Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 SA, S ruff, minor, S ruff, other minor. Easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 SA, S ruff, minor, S ruff, other minor. Easy. and then your partner pitches his second spade when declarer draws trump, hoping no one noticed the revoke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh51 Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 No one has figured this out yet. Our opponents were decent NLM players - one of them became LM with the points from this sectional event. Still there was a serious error by the opponents that doomed the contract. I have no idea what the opponent was thinking at the time of the error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 OMG! one of them became a LIFE MASTER? that's AMAZING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Our opponents were decent NLM players I'm interested to see an explanation consistent with this claim :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 You sat East-West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 You sat East-West. best guess so far :) something like: 1♥ - x - p - 2♣ - 2♥ - 3♥ - ppp (lol) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh51 Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 You sat East-West.Bingo. North apparntly forgot that they were playing western cue bids after I had opened and rebid hearts. Down 6 for second top in the NLM pairs. Top was 4♥X making by East. Everyone else was in a part score, making (some EW in hearts, some NS in clubs) North-South actually won the event (NLM pairs), but this hand did not help. As far as I knew during the bidding, 4♥ had no play. South had doubled for takeout, so I might well have had no tricks outside of hearts. So I took what I was sure to be at least 200 and gave up on the heart game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh51 Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 You sat East-West. best guess so far :) something like: 1♥ - x - p - 2♣ - 2♥ - 3♥ - ppp (lol) ? That was the exact bidding sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 So you went +300 for an awful board? Anyway I think this hand totally justifies the ACBL increasing the requirements for life master. Now that I see your later post, almost every E/W missed 4♥? Wtf?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 That was the exact bidding sequence. including the lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh51 Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 So you went +300 for an awful board? Anyway I think this hand totally justifies the ACBL increasing the requirements for life master. Now that I see your later post, almost every E/W missed 4♥? Wtf?? +300 was a good board - only one pair was better. I had played against this pair fairly often in this and other tournaments. Early in December, they tied for the 3rd most master points won at a NLM sectional. (I was second due to some stupid mistakes - one of which was taking too long at lunch and returning too late for the afternoon session.) This hand was atypical of their play. I would not be too hard on them just for this one hand. It is quite easy to miss 4♥. You pretty much have to decide to bid it vulnerable with south showing a power house. Where are you going to get your tricks outside of the 8 hearts? If west does not have a spade honor, east can be made to lead away from his spades repeatedly. minor suit honors, if any, in west's hand are likely to be wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh51 Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 That was the exact bidding sequence. including the lol? Not until after I claimed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 This hand was atypical of their play. I would not be too hard on them just for this one hand. Yeah, anyone can just space out once in a while. The other week at a club game, first board of the afternoon, my partner opened 1♣ and righty put in 2NT, unusual. My not-yet-in-gear brain parsed that as 1♦ and 1♥, and I casually laid down the 1♠ card. The director laughed at me a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 It is quite easy to miss 4♥. I admit I find it quite difficult to not get to 4♥ with 8 solid and KJx in another suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I'd be making pretty damn sure im in at least 4♥ when I have play opposite nearly all hands as long as it has an ace (Axx void xxxxx xxxxx is pretty much cold....) and I'm cold barring a ruff opposite any hand with the ♠Q. OTOH, 5♣ looks easy for NS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 you led ♠10 and declarer played north to have ♠Ax ducking the next round and keeping the heart entry in dummy wait that only brings 4 defensive tricks :( that's the est I could sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jh51 Posted January 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 I'd be making pretty damn sure im in at least 4♥ when I have play opposite nearly all hands as long as it has an ace (Axx void xxxxx xxxxx is pretty much cold....) and I'm cold barring a ruff opposite any hand with the ♠Q. OTOH, 5♣ looks easy for NS. at 5♣ you lose a trick in each suit except trump With south bidding strongly, and partner silent, how is one to expect that partner has the Q♠ Any old Ace does not bring the contract to 10 tricks, only the A♠. Without a spade honor in east's hand, west needs a minor suit A or K (with south holding the A and ducking or else East has to have an entry) and North must have a spade honor (and you have to guess which one it is. After south's takeout double, I would not have been surprised to find him with AQxx of spades. I was prepared to bid to 3♥ when red, and would have bid to 4♥ white. North's pass let me off the hook as I figured I was guarenteed a plus score vs a likely minus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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