rogerclee Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 r/w imps Ax AT432 QTxx Qx (1S) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 pass Just shy of what I need to make a t/o at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dodgy Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 2♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 2♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Pass. Get easily burned overcalling a hand and suit this weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Double.Of course I would prefer to have a 3rd ♣ , but otherwise I have an opening hand , short ♠, and ♥s (and 2 very useful 10s). Pass is reasonable , 2♥ is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 pass no problem yet. as a nonexpert I don't like to overcall lite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 this is an easy pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 For handling this hand type I recommend the West Texas Overcall. El Paso. Get it? (Runs and hides before the rotten vegetables start flying.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I would double. As a general rule I don't like to have 5 card majors in a takeout double, but double seems a nice compromise between the very ugly 2♥ overcall and pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Hi, If I bid, I bid 2H. It is not clear, but it is not clear, that I would bid, but it is alsonot sure, that I would Pass. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I would double, second choice pass. No way I'm overcalling 2H on this suit and these values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I would never double wrong shape in clubs and hearts- I would like to bid 2 Heart to take away one level of bidding- but I won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I've already gone for 2000 for overcalling 2♥ with a lousy suit and hand. In that case it was KJxxx and I believe I had 3 spades and no 4-card minor for sure. If you're playing against strong opponentns who'd double you when it is right don't overcall at these colors. X is not that good either, unless you want to risk playing in a 4(3)-2 club fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Kid Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 At this vul I'm not overcalling 2♥ with that suit and no values to compensate, its just asking for problems. I don't like passing much either with a decent opening hand and Ax in ♠, so double it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 2♥ is for sickos who haven't gone for enough numbers yet. If i make any call, aside from pass, it's double. If I don't get in now, I may never get in, but that might not be a bad thing. In real life, I'm a passer, but have no problems with double. Bidding aggressive games may be a winning style, but I don't see why we're in game territory at this point. Call me a coward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 2♥ or Pass, depending on the day. For the DBLers: Do you play ELC? Or do you think that the risk is smaller because you will RDBL if it goes: (1♠)-DBL-(Pass)-2♣(Pass)-Pass-(DBL)-(Pass)(Pass)-RDBL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Pass for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 2♥ or Pass, depending on the day. For the DBLers: Do you play ELC? Or do you think that the risk is smaller because you will RDBL if it goes: (1♠)-DBL-(Pass)-2♣(Pass)-Pass-(DBL)-(Pass)(Pass)-RDBL? I have no experience doubling with doubletons, but I have a ton of experience playing against people who double on with doubletons, and I have never haunted them down at the 2 level. There are much bigger risks on doubling than to be doubled on 2♣, no need to be doubled for the score to be poor, partner can compete 3 or 4♣, or you can miss your major fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilgan Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 At the table I'd pass. I have some respect for X, but would be nervous with that club holding myself. 2♥ is crazy imo. Do I want the lead? No. Do I have a solid suit? No. Is hearts a safe suit at this point? hell no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 The only scary thing about this thread is that there are so many lemmings refusing to pass. I love getting into auctions, but what on earth suggests doing so on this foot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Double, I have trouble explaining why but I swear it's good. Before losing your heads over a 4-2 club fit, consider that we have a really good dummy for a 5-2 club fit. In fact, we have a really good dummy for anything that will happen on offense or defense except a 4-2 club fit (and not even a bad dummy for that but don't tell.) While I can't just ignore the possibility we may reach a silly club contract, all I can say is I'm not even that scared about it because so many good things can happen and they might not catch us anyway. Ok maybe I don't have trouble explaining why I strongly believe double is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Dbl. Not perfect, but I think I can live with a 2/3♣ response. Anything else is love over gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I'd still pass, although I am less scared of double/2♥ than you probably are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 2♥ or Pass, depending on the day. I agree. I would pass on any day ending in a "y," and bid 2♥ on all of the other days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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