Poky Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 IMP. Both vul. ♠Kxx♥AQ8xx♦Ax♣Qxx (1♠) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Just barely 2H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I'll go with 2H as well. Obviously it will be hard to find our 5-3 heart fit after 1NT, while we can still easily get to 3NT after 2H (maybe even from partner's side. I don't thinkt hat 1NT is very bad though. pass and double are absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Ask me tomorow, and I may overcall 1NT. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 2H with(almost) any hand matching the topic title:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 hmm.. I was going with 1NT, but the 3-card spade suit says pard probably is short in spades so he can very well have 3 hearts. It's thus likely I'll miss the heart fit if I bid that. 2♥ it is then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 it is close, I voted for pass, but I can live with 1NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 IMP. Both vul. ♠Kxx♥AQ8xx♦Ax♣Qxx (1♠) ? 2h I got a decent 5 card major suit and an opening hand. see other threads where 1s first seat vul could be on pure junk. be not afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I prefer 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 I don't like 1NT, to me it's between 2♥ and pass. The upside and downside of 2♥ are both really high, but I'll chance it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Dino Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I really do not get some "opinion - dogmatic fact" (I really like it) here. What happened with all those guys who voted for my hand 1NT? What happened with whole bunch of criticism about 5 cards overcalls on second level? What happened to those who said my hand is to strong to pass and this one some voted pass? Looks like I will never catch this "expert" level or I am just losing time at forum not much better then Croatian one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 you are crucifying the whole forum :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 2♥. We can still find 3NT after a 2♥ overcall if 3NT is right. The chances that we will be able to get to 4♥ after a 1NT overcall when 4♥ is right are quite small. As for pass or double, I find both of those options to be out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Dino Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 you are crucifying the whole forum :) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 What happened with all those guys who voted for my hand 1NT?There is no requirement to comment just because you vote in a poll. What happened with whole bunch of criticism about 5 cards overcalls on second level?Did anyone who criticized 5 card overcalls in the other thread vote for 2♥ in this thread? Also note that majors and minors are not the same thing. What happened to those who said my hand is to strong to pass and this one some voted pass?Did anyone who said your hand was too strong to pass in the other thread pass in this thread? Looks like I will never catch this "expert" level or I am just losing time at forum not much better then Croatian one?Looks like you don't understand that the forums is not one person with ten thousand logins. It's a bunch of people with a wide range of bridge abilities who each have different opinions and don't always agree with each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Dino you have to understand the difference from having a clear double (your hand), and not having a good bid to enter the bidding (here). People don't like 2♥ now, but they aren't chancing a pass. I don't really see why people chance a 2♥ overcall when 1NT has little flaws, seems like they are seeing something I don't. I think the suit quality is so poor for 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 2♥. Overcalling 2♥ over 1♠ is a different species than a 2m overcall because we are now aiming for a 4♥ contract. So the flat shape is not nearly as terrible. It's close between 2♥ and 1NT, but I want a second spade card to bid 1NT here, just give me the T and we may be talking. I need 'outs' if we get to 3NT instead of 4♥ on a 5-3, and for 3NT to be better, it would be nice with a second spade stopper. Don't understand pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikl Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 For me it is 2♥. Yes I would like a better suit, yes I would like a longer suit; but I have what I have. If I am to make game I see 4♥ as a more likely making contract. If 4♥ is not the spot I have 3NT as backup. If you swapped the red suits I would probably bid NT since I am a hell of a long way from 5♦ and much closer to getting doubled. Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I don't like 1NT, to me it's between 2♥ and pass. The upside and downside of 2♥ are both really high, but I'll chance it. I used to think like you, so I'm only saying this as a "I think you should reconsider" type thing..I really think pass is terrible, and it's a bidders game. You could have a game, you have to bid, you rarely go for a number. It's a scary world but 2H is a winning bridge bid in my very strong opinion (now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 reopening doubles are not mandatory --see previous string --- so we might pay 100 per undertrick vs their NT game. 2H with a poker face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 2♥. Overcalling 2♥ over 1♠ is a different species than a 2m overcall because we are now aiming for a 4♥ contract. So the flat shape is not nearly as terrible. It's close between 2♥ and 1NT, but I want a second spade card to bid 1NT here, just give me the T and we may be talking. I need 'outs' if we get to 3NT instead of 4♥ on a 5-3, and for 3NT to be better, it would be nice with a second spade stopper. Don't understand pass.Agree with everything.Very well said and explained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Yep, I like MFA's post too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 No strong view which of 1N or 2♥ I bid, pass and double are out of the question. 1N is better on this shape when you're top of the range and can bid 3♥ over an invite. If my overcalls are very wide ranging, I'll bid 1N, but if up to strength I'm happy with 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I really do not get some "opinion - dogmatic fact" (I really like it) here. What happened with all those guys who voted for my hand 1NT? What happened with whole bunch of criticism about 5 cards overcalls on second level? What happened to those who said my hand is to strong to pass and this one some voted pass? Looks like I will never catch this "expert" level or I am just losing time at forum not much better then Croatian one? Besides what jdonn already said: An incredible amount of nonsense appears daily on the forums. After a while you learn which posts to read and which posts to ignore. If you don't read this post, you are on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilgan Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I can't pass. I'd consider 1 NT with a different spade holding, but with a single stopper I'm bidding 2♥ always. Stronger hand and a double stop, I'll probably bid 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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