y66 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 From I moved my kids out of America. It was the best parenting decision I've ever made. by Wendy DeChambeau: "I really wish you'd reconsider your decision," my neighbor Steve said. He strode over, hands on hips, and added, "I hear it's dangerous down there. I'm really worried about your kids." The decision he was referring to was the radical idea that my husband and I had settled on. We were moving, along with our two young sons — at age 7 and 9 — from small town U.S.A. to a modest mountain village in Ecuador. Steve wasn't the only one with concerns. My brother, who normally lauded my parenting choices, was ominously silent on this one, afraid that talking about it would make it real, give it life and validation. Some of our friends turned on us, calling us terrible parents, or saying we were unpatriotic. Why would we want to leave the land of the free and the home of the brave? And where was Ecuador, anyway? Somewhere near Mexico? Africa? We were taking our children to a country that most Americans can't even point to on a map. What were we thinking? Well, we were thinking a lot of things, and taking a number of factors into consideration. In America, it seemed every third child was taking pharmaceuticals to treat behavioral issues, anxiety, or depression. High school students were unloading automatic weapons into their classmates. Opioid use was reaching all new highs. Bank executives were defrauding their customers and Wall Street was walking an increasingly thin tight rope. It felt like The American Dream as we knew it was all but gone, having transformed into a shadowy unknown. We fretted about what the future would hold for our family. We thought maybe, just maybe, a simpler lifestyle somewhere else was the answer. And so, in 2011, our family walked up to the edge of the unknown, took a deep breath, and jumped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpawn Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 From I moved my kids out of America. It was the best parenting decision I've ever made. by Wendy DeChambeau:As you have already said, travel and living in other parts of the world, helps remove preconceived notions, prejudices and paradigms that we accept as universal truths. Travel is a form of deprogramming that helps us better appreciate the human struggle and the human condition. It helps us understand how nature, culture, fellowship, and family are the true elements of life. And as this article has highlighted, the human connection is always superior to the trappings of the virtual connection. Henry David Thoreau said, "We do not ride upon the railroad, it rides upon us." The same applies to technology and the internet and the smart phone. Thoreau also said,Our life is frittered away by detail. An honest man has hardly need to count more than his 10 fingers, or in extreme cases, he may add his ten toes, and lump the rest. Simplicity, simplicity, simplicity. I say let your affairs be as two or three, and not a hundred or a thousand; instead of a million, count half a dozen, and keep your accounts on a thumbnail. We are in great haste to construct a magnetic telegraph from Maine and Texas; but Maine and Texas, it may be, have nothing to communicate.We are beholden to the soulless demands and ruthless efficiency of technology. We stare at screens that illuminate all day but rarely illuminate our minds. We respond to the electronic stimuli, but rarely find an intellectually stimulating experience. We constantly stare at these screens looking for escape, entertainment, and convenient distractions, but can't engage our fellow man to explore his narrative. We search for truth about our physical reality by connecting to a virtual one. That's our first mistake. We look for sound advice by consulting a mindless device. That's our second mistake. We send data into outer space hoping to learn more about our inner space. That's our third mistake. We travel the information superhighway littered with faceless corporations that bombard us with unsolicited ads appealing to our most base desires. They knowingly proposition us for mindless consumption under the false disguise of commerce. We buy; they sell. They profit; we lose. They relieve their excess inventory; and we have yet to conduct a personal inventory. Where is the knowledge of self we seek? We've been hoodwinked and sold a false bill of goods in pursuit of a higher self. We pivot towards an unrelenting global, knowledge economy at the peril of our personal economy. We marvel at our technological innovation and christen this the Information Age, not realizing we have opened the portal to the Misinformation Age. We do not ride upon the information superhighway; it rides upon us. See https://journal.thriveglobal.com/how-technology-hijacks-peoples-minds-from-a-magician-and-google-s-design-ethicist-56d62ef5edf3 as provided in another BBO Forum topic. "The average person checks their phone 150 times a day." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Lincoln Riley? Is that the Lincoln coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 As you have already said, travel and living in other parts of the world, helps remove preconceived notions, prejudices and paradigms that we accept as universal truths. Travel is a form of deprogramming that helps us better appreciate the human struggle and the human condition. It helps us understand how nature, culture, fellowship, and family are the true elements of life. And as this article has highlighted, the human connection is always superior to the trappings of the virtual connection. Henry David Thoreau said, "We do not ride upon the railroad, it rides upon us.". The same applies to technology and the internet and the smart phone. Thoreau also said,We are beholden to the soulless demands and ruthless efficiency of technology. We stare at screens that illuminate all day but rarely illuminate our minds. We respond to the electronic stimuli, but rarely find an intellectually stimulating experience. We constantly stare at these screens looking for escape, entertainment, and convenient distractions, but can't engage our fellow man to explore his narrative. We search for truth about our physical reality by connecting to a virtual one. That's our first mistake. We look for sound advice by consulting a mindless device. That's our second mistake. We send data into outer space hoping to learn more about our inner space. That's our third mistake. We travel the information superhighway littered with faceless corporations that bombard us with unsolicited ads appealing to our most base desires. They knowingly proposition us for mindless consumption under the false disguise of commerce. We buy; they sell. They profit; we lose. They relieve their excess inventory; and we have yet to conduct a personal inventory. Where is the knowledge of self we seek? We've been hoodwinked and sold a false bill of goods in pursuit of a higher self. We pivot towards an unrelenting global, knowledge economy at the peril of our personal economy. We marvel at our technological innovation and christen this the Information Age, not realizing we have opened the portal to the Misinformation Age. We do not ride on the information superhighway: it rides upon us.Where is the knowledge we seek? In the posts of kenberg? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 from How the Times will use Moderator: Our partnership with Jigsaw and Instrument builds on work we’ve done in partnership with The Washington Post, Knight Foundation and Mozilla on the Coral Project, an effort that helps news sites accept and manage reader submissions on a large scale. In the long run, we hope to reimagine what it means to “comment” online. The Times is developing a community where readers can discuss the news pseudonymously in an environment safe from harassment, abuse and even your crazy uncle. We hope you join us on the journey.Very happy to hear someone is reimagining this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpawn Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 The Matrix is real. We are all in it... Why so? Can you provide some real life examples? Who is the Oracle and who is the Architect? Who is Neo? Are you oversimplifying the importance of programs in our daily lives? Please provide a real life example of a glitch in the Matrix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 We are receivers, accumulators, processors and transmitters of energy and data. The sense of what and how we provide our unique perspective is a fundamental element in the synthesis of our evolutionary existence. We need not seek knowledge (data becomes information and has meaning when we relate it as regards our position) but we need to develop knowing. The act, art and science of our presence. The only impediments are not remaining open and not developing and exercising the discernment necessary to deal with the wheat and discard the chaff. Not in absolute terms but rather that which has relevance to us specifically. Respect is the operational characteristic of this state. Anything less is beneath our purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Where is the knowledge we seek? In the posts of kenberg? Yes, but you have to read them backward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes, but you have to read them backward.33 1/3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes, but you have to read them backward.33 1/3?That would make Ken 84? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 That would make Ken 84?Closer to a 78... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 33 1/3? Ah, nostalgia. But this is the thread for it. On my 14th birthday in 1953 I was given a phonograph and the three LPs, 33 1/3 speed. Stan Kenton, Billy May, someone else I forget. 33 1/3 was pretty new stuff at the time. My parents went all out on this, the phonograph played 78s and 45s as well as the LPs. Later, in college, the college radio station had a "garage sale" of old 78s from the 1930s and I bought several. They would probably be worth something if I hadn't lost them in my many moves since then. And yep, that means 78 is right. Or 87 if you read it backward. Ok, back to the present. Under protest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Ah, nostalgia. But this is the thread for it. On my 14th birthday in 1953 I was given a phonograph and the three LPs, 33 1/3 speed. Stan Kenton, Billy May, someone else I forget. 33 1/3 was pretty new stuff at the time. My parents went all out on this, the phonograph played 78s and 45s as well as the LPs. Later, in college, the college radio station had a "garage sale" of old 78s from the 1930s and I bought several. They would probably be worth something if I hadn't lost them in my many moves since then. And yep, that means 78 is right. Or 87 if you read it backward. Ok, back to the present. Under protest. I have an audio technica turntable and a collection of vinyl albums: quite eclectic ranging from Beatles to The Velvet Underground and from Willie Nelson to Dave Brubeck (Take Five). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 I have an audio technica turntable and a collection of vinyl albums: quite eclectic ranging from Beatles to The Velvet Underground and from Willie Nelson to Dave Brubeck (Take Five). off topic but I did request a beatles cd for my birthday Thursday.........love your range of music Winston...Great you are great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 off topic but I did request a beatles cd for my birthday Thursday.........love your range of music Winston...Great you are great. Just a note: it is impossible to be off-topic in the hijacked thread thread. ;) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just a note: it is impossible to be off-topic in the hijacked thread thread. ;) its true, but just a remider :this virtuell territory should remain the trump-free-zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 its true, but just a reminder :this virtual territory should remain the trump-free-zoneSo if I post about my pet peeve of Trump's attitude to climate change and the music that put me in the mood for, I would be off topic? B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 So if I post about my pet peeve of Trump's attitude to climate change and the music that put me in the mood for, I would be off topic? B-) How can one be on-topic in the off-topic thread thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted June 26, 2017 Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 So if I post about my pet peeve of Trump's attitude to climate change and the music that put me in the mood for, I would be off topic? B-) C'mon give. Pink Floyd and Run Like Hell for me. I think we're good as long as we avoid logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2017 C'mon give. Pink Floyd and Run Like Hell for me. I think we're good as long as we avoid logic. Logic? Don't bring Supertramp into the discussion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Logic? Don't bring Supertramp into the discussion! Is there bacon obligatory having breakfast in America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Is there bacon obligatory having breakfast in America?Is sausage obligatory to having breakfast in Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Is sausage obligatory to having breakfast in Germany? Is obligatory obligatory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Bacon and sausage are not obligatory. Pork chops are fine too. The one I just ate was delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Zamboni ice resurfacing machines are obligatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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