Official BBO Hijacked Thread Thread

[Aberlour10]

I won 10 € in a tricky bet yesterday while talking with friends about the current Snooker WC. What is the maximal score the snooker player can reach in one frame?

What would you say? heh

[gwnn]

I won 10 € in a tricky bet yesterday while talking with friends about the current Snooker WC. What is the maximal score the snooker player can reach in one frame?

What would you say? heh

153 isn't it? Something related to a free ball.

 

edit: looked it up and it's 155, of course, 147+8(pocketing a black as free ball, or what the expression is). math fail by gwnn

[Aberlour10]

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153 isn't it? Something related to a free ball.

 

edit: looked it up and it's 155, of course, 147+8(pocketing a black as free ball, or what the expression is). math fail by gwnn

 

 

correct, its the max score that a player can reach in one break, but he may score theoretically more in one frame and this was the question here.

 

PS, This 10€ note disappeared immediately in the black hole = waiter's pocket :(

[gwnn]

Well what if I snooker my opponent and he keeps missing, don't I keep getting 4 points forever? I'm lazy to look it up (in fact, maybe it's not even 4 points but some other amount I can't remember).

[WellSpyder]

its the max score that a player can reach in one break, but he may score theoretically more in one frame and this was the question here.

Surely there isn't a theoretical maximum, given unlimited scope for penalties from snookers, etc, without any balls being potted.

[WellSpyder]

Well what if I snooker my opponent and he keeps missing, don't I keep getting 4 points forever? I'm lazy to look it up (in fact, maybe it's not even 4 points but some other amount I can't remember).

Great minds think alike....

[gwnn]

I guess there might be a practical maximum of 999, or maybe 65535.

[Cyberyeti]

153 isn't it? Something related to a free ball.

 

edit: looked it up and it's 155, of course, 147+8(pocketing a black as free ball, or what the expression is). math fail by gwnn

It's actually pocketing a random colour as an extra red due to the free ball, then a black as the colour with the extra red then a standard 147.

 

IIRC the "16 red" clearance has been done but it wasn't more than 147 when it occurred in tournament play.

 

A similar teaser, with no fouls and with you only making one break, what's the smallest break you can make to leave your opponent needing snookers ?

[Aberlour10]

Anyway, Ronnie rocks Crucible Theater

[y66]

Food is the new rock and roll.

 

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/05/16/dining/16GOOGA_SPAN/16GOOGAa-articleLarge.jpg

 

If John Lennon and Sinead O’Connor once stirred cultural ferment, it’s now meat-loving knife-slingers (as in David Chang, Gabrielle Hamilton, Jon Shook and Vinny Dotolo) who are seen as having that “anti-establishment, sticking-it-to-the-man mentality,” said Graham Elliot, the Chicago chef who has been culinary director for Lollapalooza since 2010.

 

“They’re the ones saying, ‘I’m going to butcher a whole pig and serve you its face, and if you don’t like it, too bad.’ ”

 

(As a matter of fact, one of the top draws at GoogaMooga will be Ms. Bloomfield, giving the audience a nose-to-tail tour of a 200-pound pig that she plans to cut apart, onstage, before a lesson on making sausage and bacon.)

Did someone say bacon?

[Winstonm]

Food is the new rock and roll.

 

Does that mean Bread is making a comeback?

[Aberlour10]

Did someone say bacon?

 

 

All England celebrates the 250th anniversary these days >>> In 1762 the Earl of Sandwich put bacon between two pieces of bread >>> The bacon sandwich was born.

[jjbrr]

Yeah, nothing is trendier in food right now than eating things that no one else wants to eat. Chocolate covered bacon? You devil! Sauteed goat spleens? Keep going! Stir fried camel testicles and grasshoppers with lemon grass and kaffir lime? Sold!

 

Also, that image is photoshopped.

[y66]

A day in the life of financial blogger and bacon lover Joe Weisenthal:

 

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/05/13/magazine/13weisenthal1/13weisenthal1-articleLarge.jpg

 

It’s not just the content of his posts that draws an audience; it’s his persona as the Stalwart, someone so absurdly passionate about the latest economic data that he forgoes sleep, night life and the company of his wife. “The weekend’s for reading about gas and cars,” he tweeted on a recent Saturday. And eight days earlier, “#FridayNightAloneAtHomeReadingWallStreetResearch.”

 

One morning he tweeted a picture of himself working in the dark. Another morning, after sleeping in and missing two new items of economic data, he opened by tweeting: “Please. Nobody tell me the Claims or GDP number. I have between 8:28 and 8:32 on CNBC DVR’d.”

 

Weisenthal and those who know him agree that this is not an act. He has always been intense, and he has always enjoyed performing for an audience. “I like having the reputation as the person who is going to get something first, who knows what’s going on, who’s tireless,” he said.

[y66]

Robert Reich to new college grads: no bacon for you (paraphrasing). Via Mr. Wiesenthal.

[y66]

Scene from The Pig hotel.

 

http://www.designtripper.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/765x460_pig_fence-565x339.jpg

[kenberg]

Robert Reich frequently annoys the hell out of me. Here is a line from the cited source:

 

Don't get me wrong. A four-year college degree is still valuable. Over your lifetimes, you'll earn about 70 percent more than people who don't have the pieces of parchment you're picking up today.

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A completely irrelevant number. We have nothing that remotely resembles a random sample that might make such a statistic useful. A usefulo number, but much more difficult to arrive at, would be: Suppose a person has the ability to finish a four year degree. Will he make more money if he does so than if he puts his energy to use in a different manner? I have no idea and I doubt Reich does either. The number presented compares people who have the ability to succeed in college, and do so, with those who for one reason or another, do not finish. There are many reasons for not finishing, or even starting, but the fact that people who can and do finish make more than people who for one reason or another don't go or don't finish may prove little more than the truism that ability combined with ambition tends to pay off, regardless of how these traits are put to use.

 

We need a serious discussion of who can benefit from college and who would be better off pursuing a different route. I speak as someone with two daughters, both doing well, one with a Ph.D and the other with no post-secondary education. College is not for everyone and it is a great disservice to pretend that it is the unique road to a good life. Bill Gares is a drop out, is he not?

 

Btw, I went to college because I like mathematics and college was the place for such a person. Lifetime earnings were not even remotely part of my decision process.

 

Basically, every time Reich speaks I get a sick feeling in my stomach. He could improve my health by shutting up.

[PassedOut]

We need a serious discussion of who can benefit from college and who would be better off pursuing a different route. I speak as someone with two daughters, both doing well, one with a Ph.D and the other with no post-secondary education. College is not for everyone and it is a great disservice to pretend that it is the unique road to a good life. Bill Gates is a drop out, is he not?

Of my three sons, the youngest makes the most money (by far) and has the least education -- recruited after only one semester of college.

 

But I don't see the value of college as merely a ticket to a higher income. To me, the value is in spending a few years reading the words of past thinkers and in discussing matters of interest with professors and fellow students. My youngest says he sees that too, but I note that he has not signed up for any courses...

 

No doubt, for many possible reasons, not everyone should go to college. But I'd like to get away from expressing its value in terms of increased income.

[kenberg]

Of my three sons, the youngest makes the most money (by far) and has the least education -- recruited after only one semester of college.

 

But I don't see the value of college as merely a ticket to a higher income. To me, the value is in spending a few years reading the words of past thinkers and in discussing matters of interest with professors and fellow students. My youngest says he sees that too, but I note that he has not signed up for any courses...

 

No doubt, for many possible reasons, not everyone should go to college. But I'd like to get away from expressing its value in terms of increased income.

 

Very much I agree. I very much enjoyed college, and for the reasons you say. I also had an eye on how I was going to make a living. Going to college bacause it is a good way to make a buck seems to me to be pretty misguided. Sort of like marrying for money.For some it will work.

[Cyberyeti]

Very much I agree. I very much enjoyed college, and for the reasons you say. I also had an eye on how I was going to make a living. Going to college bacause it is a good way to make a buck seems to me to be pretty misguided. Sort of like marrying for money.For some it will work.

Here in the UK, things are badly slanted because too many people are going to university, meaning that:

 

People are asking for degrees for jobs that have never needed one before.

The degrees are seriously dumbing down.

The government can't afford to pay for the fees of people to go to university making it ever more expensive.

 

Going to college to earn a buck is becoming necessary in many fields because employers are just not considering people without a degree for jobs that you don't need a degree to do.

[kenberg]

I think that a lot of the same is happening here.. Employers perhaps see getting through college as proof that you can get through something even if the relevance to the actual job is scant. Maybe we could just have them run a triathalon instead.

[onoway]

A few years ago I was amused ( a bit depressed too) to see that someone looking for a traffic control person for road construction sites required a BA from any applicants to be considered. To stand by the side of the road and hold up stop and slow signs.

 

Perhaps it's all part of the backlash against anything seen as smacking of "elitism" that university has largely become just a mill for grinding out "acceptable" workers. It was one thing when it used to be that some education indicated an ability to read and write, so it offered some perceptible value over those who could not. Now I have seen examples of people IN University who can barely do even that. They have been pushed through the system for one reason or another..sometimes because the teachers at lower levels know the student won't be able to get work without at least some university and they want him to have a chance to get out of the poverty he was raised in. Unquestionably there are other reasons as well. But it makes a university education a mockery of what it was intended to be, which in some ways IS elitist, in that it should only be appropriate for a percentage of the population.

 

The only elitist groups now acceptable seem to be the film and music celebrities, or the very rich. So it's likely many more people would be able to reel off every milestone in Lady Gaga's life than would have a clue who Richard Dawkins is for example.

 

Perhaps universities need to stop giving out degrees. Of course, most universities if not all would promptly go out of business if they did that.

[Winstonm]

I think that a lot of the same is happening here.. Employers perhaps see getting through college as proof that you can get through something even if the relevance to the actual job is scant. Maybe we could just have them run a triathalon instead.

 

That's the SEC.

[kenberg]

Perhaps not exactly on point but today, for uninteresting reasons involving my car's air conditioner and my busy life, I had to be picked up somewhere and brought to a car rental place. Conversation revealed that the driver has a BA in history.

[WellSpyder]

Perhaps not exactly on point but [....]

I thought that WAS the point of this thread.