Aberlour10 Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 [hv=s=s7h86daq10942c10987]133|100|[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I show an invite with diamonds. Just signing off in 3♦ might be better, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 Invite with diamonds seems right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I did a half-assed sim with this very hand and situation last year. Half-assed, meaning I gathered every 1NT opening I could find into a file and made sure it didn't have any duplicated cards :unsure: ended up with 86 hands. No hand that would not accept a diamond invite would make game cold. Several which would accept the invite would also go down. A real sim by competent people might show differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 I would consider AQTxxx and out to be the textbook hand to invite in a minor over a 15-17 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I am a bit lost, reading the OP and the poll options it seems to me that there is no invite in a minor avaible. Passing 1NT is out since this might lead to them playing 3M wich I'd really hate. If no invite avaible I'd just transfer and pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I am a bit lost, reading the OP and the poll options it seems to me that there is no invite in a minor avaible. Passing 1NT is out since this might lead to them playing 3M wich I'd really hate. If no invite avaible I'd just transfer and pass. yeh, I read diamond invite as the "3NT try" listed in the poll. But maybe your read is better. Was thinking of the old fashioned 3D jump, which I don't have available, either. So, in your (my) system the choices are 3NT and drop dead in 3D. Based on my half-assed sim, perhaps the drop dead will be better more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Having a way to show specifically HHxxxx in a minor is a REALLY valuable response to 1NT to have, if you like reaching cold 23-point games :) Those of you who play the 2-under transfers might consider using your two steps to show "I have a high honor in your suit" and "I don't". (In my own system, we use 1NT-2S for both the balanced raise to 2NT and the minor-suit invite, with other bids for weak-or-strong minor.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I show an invite with diamonds. Just signing off in 3♦ might be better, though. But how do you do that. I know you didn't vote for the last choice so you must be expecting partner to break the transfer but will he with just Kx♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I show an invite with diamonds. Just signing off in 3♦ might be better, though. But how do you do that. I know you didn't vote for the last choice so you must be expecting partner to break the transfer but will he with just Kx♦? Dunno, either it is a "3NT try" or "transfer to diamonds". Not sure how to interpret the poll options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I show an invite with diamonds. Just signing off in 3♦ might be better, though. But how do you do that. I know you didn't vote for the last choice so you must be expecting partner to break the transfer but will he with just Kx♦? If partner says she has a bad hand for diamonds, I'm happy to play 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I show an invite with diamonds. Just signing off in 3♦ might be better, though. But how do you do that. I know you didn't vote for the last choice so you must be expecting partner to break the transfer but will he with just Kx♦? If partner says she has a bad hand for diamonds, I'm happy to play 3D. Are you then saying that ♦Kx in a 1NT opener is in of itself satisfactory for only playing 3♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Are you then saying that ♦Kx in a 1NT opener is in of itself satisfactory for only playing 3♦? oppsite such a hand, game is probably at best about 70%. obviously one would want to bid 70% games, but missing a few of them isn't going to be panic me into dispensing with the rest of my system and its benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Are you then saying that ♦Kx in a 1NT opener is in of itself satisfactory for only playing 3♦? oppsite such a hand, game is probably at best about 70%. obviously one would want to bid 70% games, but missing a few of them isn't going to be panic me into dispensing with the rest of my system and its benefits. So how are you using a direct 3♦ bid over 1NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Surely partner will accept with some hands containing ♦Kx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Surely partner will accept with some hands containing ♦Kx. assuming you play 4 suit transfers and partner bids 2NT as a transfer to ♦ are you going to break the transfer with Kx♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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