mohitz Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Incidentally, opener had a balanced 15-count with 5 hearts and did not double (probably fearing a stealing responder.) Responder had Q743 Q J9432 953. Did he make it btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyhung Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Incidentally, opener had a balanced 15-count with 5 hearts and did not double (probably fearing a stealing responder.) Responder had Q743 Q J9432 953. Did he make it btw? They never played 1NT : Meckstroth jumped to 3♣ with K2 8753 7 QJT876 and made it for +110. Win 9 IMP when teammates opened 1NT 15-17 with the 5-heart hand and the Meckwell hands interfered and got to 2♥, going down 3 vul after trying to set up clubs -- the 5-1 trump break doomed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I have a number of times seen top experts overcall 1NT in this spot on much lighter hands than I would consider safe. In Meckstroth's book I think there is even an example of Rodwell doing it on (a good) 14.Josh, you are the go-to guy when it comes to hands in bridge books. I found the hand you mentioned, it's : [hv=v=n&s=sat98hkt2dak86c42]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] and the auction went 1♥ - P - 1♠. And yes, they were vulnerable against not at IMPs for the 1NT overcall. It's a great 14, though. Incidentally, opener had a balanced 15-count with 5 hearts and did not double (probably fearing a stealing responder.) Responder had Q743 Q J9432 953. Also, Meckstroth comments that partner's sandwich 1NT is less defined than a opening strong notrump because "they may be bidding his suits, and then he has only two choices -- Pass and 1NT." No offshape takeout doubles? Unclear ... to be fair, double feels less attractive on this hand because both majors have been bid. 4-2 in the unbid suits is off shape. 4-3 is fine obviously. His point was when they have bid his suits (ie he has 7+ cards in those suits) he will have to pass or bid 1N. He did not say anything about when they have bid 2 suits that he has 6 cards in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyhung Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Maybe we're just arguing semantics, but my definition of an offshape double after the enemy has bid two suits is 4-3 in the unbid suits. I understand why one might want to double with 4-3, but I expect my partner to have at least 4 cards in each of the unbid suits, and will bid accordingly. Similarly, in direct chair, I would define a double containing a 2-card unbid minor as offshape -- partner doesn't expect a 2cm when responding. I frequently make offshape doubles in direct, but have never had the guts to do it in sandwich. Perhaps this is a hole in my game. And in case you were wondering, I would define a double containing a 2-card unbid major and standard values as ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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