Hanoi5 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Say you hold: ♠J8763♥842♦J5♣Q84 You hear the following exchange between your opponents: 1NT 2♣2♦ 5NT(big hand)7NT(I didn't open with 14) Your lead sir/madam. Any comments will be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I lead a spade, sounds to me the most passive card I have, declarer might be guessing the suit because partner has singleton anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Say you hold ♠ J8763♥ 842 ♦ J5 ♣ Q841NT 2♣2♦ 5NT(big hand)7NT(I didn't open with 14)Your lead sir/madam. Any comments will be appreciated. IMO ♠ = 10, ♥ = 7, ♦ = 4, ♣ = 2.Agree with Fluffy that ♠ may be safest. Dummy is more likely to hold 4♥ than 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I lead a Heart. Spade would be my 2nd choice.1. A Heart may help declarer to guess the suit but will seldom offer the 13th trick.2. A spade might also help him to guess the suit, *and* it may also offer the 13th trick (ATx//K9x, etc.). Anyway, if declarer can count my Spades he may well guess the Hearts in pard's hand (and misguess the Clubs hopefuly :)), so I'm rather confident about this Heart lead. If I had the ♥9xx (or worse : Txx), it would be tougher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 heart. the only passive lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I sympathize with a heart if partner can be guaranteed to have 0, but do you change your mind if dummy is known to be a very aggressive bidder, and partner could have a queen or even a king? I guess I feel like a spade is most passive, it loses when their side has AKQ and 10 of spades or AKQ and 9 AND 4 cards in dummy AND they pick up the suit. Heart loses sometimes when partner has Jxxx or Qxx too... (no I have no idea who it was that had to make this lead :unsure:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Heart, don't want to give anything away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hi, I would go with a major, and I voted spades, I have 5 of them, but hearts may be the safer lead, but I go with leading mylongest and strongest. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 A heart. Simple! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I guess I feel like a spade is most passive, it loses when their side has AKQ and 10 of spades or AKQ and 9 AND 4 cards in dummy AND they pick up the suit. Heart loses sometimes when partner has Jxxx or Qxx too... Now which would you say is more likely? 1. they have AKQ and T or 9 of spades2. partner has specifically Jxxx or Qxx of hearts (they bid grand on 33 or 32 hcp and they're missing the worst holding for a heart lead) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I guess I feel like a spade is most passive, it loses when their side has AKQ and 10 of spades or AKQ and 9 AND 4 cards in dummy AND they pick up the suit. Heart loses sometimes when What about declarer having ♠ATx in dummy facing ♠K9x in Hand, or any equivalent ? (any 6 cards including AKT9xx spades with split AK are dangerous holdings). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Probably a heart, but if I'm leading a spade, I will lead the one I'd lead from the equivalent 4 card holding without the J, gives us a chance of coming out alive if partner has the Q or K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I thought it was close yesterday. Then I talked to cherdano last night. Now I feel dumb for not realizing how obvious a heart was. How about, for LHO / RHO in spades:HHxx / HTHHxx / HTx and partner stiff 9HH9x / H6 (or are you leading the 8?)HHTx / Hx where he won't go right if you don't lead them, but may put in the ten if you do. Whereas in hearts, partner probably just has nothing. Edit: Ok we have the 6, scratch that third one! Unless it's H5 and someone leads the low one here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 The heart seemed automatic to me when I looked at the hand, and nothing I later read changed my mind. Put another way: the heart rarely, if ever, gives declarer something he can't get anyway...altho it will sometimes give him something he probably wouldn't play for: KQxx opposite A10, as an easy example. But any other lead may well give him something that he could never play for otherwise. Which heart? The top one is the usual one and while it is somewhat revealing, it may be important for partner to have a count on this hand anyway so I am not going to try to cloud anyone's mind with a low one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Then I talked to cherdano last night. Now I feel dumb !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Would either opponent try to steal a grand swing on 6+minor semi-solid/solid? Does that change the passive attitude for opening lead? I had a similar problem vs. 6NT blast with 7xD solid. We had CK + CA cashing and opening leader decided C-opening lead lessening the legitimate chances, but killing the steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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