Rev Dino Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Opp on the third spot open 1 ♠ you hold: KxAQxAQxxxxxx and bid: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 x, spades too weak for 1NT, diamonds too weak for 2♦ (sort of). if you have 2 in their major and 5m332 it's much better to double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I like 1NT. X is reasonable as well IMO. Hate anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 1NT, wtp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevek Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Double. Never 1NT with this takeout shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I picked X, too. One ♦ short of overcalling in them and NT didn't even cross my mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Kid Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 1NT. Like the position of my aces, K♠ and I have a possible source of tricks. Not happy with some of the responses I might get over X either. RHO opened in 3rd seat and I'll try describe my hand as good as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Double for me. I wouldn't consider anything else. I hate to wrong side NT with marginal strength and takeout shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Easy 1NT here. Accurate shape/strength description, a support for hearts if pard transfers, source of tricks in diamonds, which is also a convenient escape suit if they dbl. What more could you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I think double is so much better than 1NT here that 1NT wouldn't cross my mind. 1NT describes your hand better, but double is much more likely to work better, and that is way more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 1N would cross my mind, but only accompanied by a horrified shudder. Double seems clear...too much to pass, and the thought of bidding 2♦ makes 1N seem almost palatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 This hand doesn't pass the boundary X/1NT. But if S-K10x? Or H-Axx? Or D-AQJxx? Tipped to 1NT then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hi, 2D, but I dont mind 1NT, ... having read the reaction after some thoughtabout 2D / 1NT, I feel I have felt the samé, after I heard serious suggestion for making a t/o X with the hand. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Would double, but I don't hate 1NT. I do hate 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 agree with mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Double. Happy new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Dino Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hi, 2D, but I dont mind 1NT Hi there. Ok yesterday noon I posted the very same question at Croatian bridge association forum and get very different answers. X - 21NT - 132D - 7 Like we are not playing the same game. If you ask me it is not very clear what to bid. Or far from clear cut at least. With 1 NT you describe best the shape. Unfortunately not very good stopper. I do not like X because no HP in xxx clubs but I agree as well this describe the shape but w/o stopper. And I would prefer in the rest of the suits better shape from 353, at least 344 or even 4 hearts. For 2D you are short for a card and will have problem to find possible heart fit. I was thinking which bid can reduce the damage. Any bid can get you in trouble. None can tell what can be the cheapest contract if partner have nothing. Very probably you will run from 1NT double in 2D even not more secure. If partner have something he will not pass that we can miss the game. If you expect that you will be overbided with 2S your 2D bid helps partner to bid 3D to fight for a contract. I bided 2D. I do not say it is good, but at the moment seemed the best to me. After all, I want to stress the very big differnce in opinions from this one and our local bridge forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Like we are not playing the same game. Hi, I think there is a difference, if it comes to making 1NT overcalls, I would say, Europeans, make lighter 1NT overcalls than players from North America, andthe BBF is heavily dominated by players from North America.The consequence of making heavier 1 NT overcalls is of course, that players from North America are more in favour of making a T/O with bal. hands, ..., of course of shape double is a italian style things, so my logic is not 100% clean, but hey, who said, that arguments need to be consistent. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Dino Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 One more thing for everybody: any difference if VUL or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 no difference for me (and I believe few people will say yes). maybe if I liked 1NT I'd be less likely to do it V than NV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 One more thing for everybody: any difference if VUL or not? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I don't agree with P_Marlowe about this difference between Europeans and Americans. For example, I am willing to bet that virtually all top Italian players would double with this hand, and most of them are European. The one good Dutch bridge player that I asked wasn't sure what the consensus in the Netherlands would be but she didn't think any would pick 2D. MFA and fluffy are high level Danish and Spanish players btw. I don't think the Croatian poll should be taken seriously, almost a third voted for 2D which is horrible to my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I don't agree with P_Marlowe about this difference between Europeans and Americans. For example, I am willing to bet that virtually all top Italian players would double with this hand, and most of them are European. The one good Dutch bridge player that I asked wasn't sure what the consensus in the Netherlands would be but she didn't think any would pick 2D. MFA and fluffy are high level Danish and Spanish players btw. I don't think the Croatian poll should be taken seriously, almost a third voted for 2D which is horrible to my mind. I think it should be taken seriously as an indication of what people bid in Croatia. The problem with comparing "Europeans" with "Americans" is that Europe, being made up of fifty countries with fifty different traditions, isn't at all homogeneous. There's no reason to expect a Croatian to bid more like a Dutchman than an American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 While I cannot judge whether that poll is really indicative of what other people in Croatia bid, I agree with the rest of what you wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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