bluecalm Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Our hand : KT6 K98 Q3 AT832; imps, we only vul; pass - 2C* - 4H - ???? 2C was precision polish style; 11-14hcp, 6+C or 5C-4Major. Opponents don't have agreement about how they play 4H here but it's reasonable to assume it's very wide range. In this problem I think one action is clearly the best and it's not close. My partner think the same but about different action :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Can't see any possible bid other than 5C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Double could work but so what, it's a total guess and you have 5!!!! card support! Bid 5♣. Sometimes you even get to double 5♥ instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I would bid 5♣.I, of course, understand , that it is possible that both 5♣ and 4♥ go down, but think it is wrong to "hide" the huge ♣ support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Our hand : KT6 K98 Q3 AT832; imps, we only vul; pass - 2C* - 4H - ???? 2C was precision polish style; 11-14hcp, 6+C or 5C-4Major. Opponents don't have agreement about how they play 4H here but it's reasonable to assume it's very wide range. In this problem I think one action is clearly the best and it's not close. My partner think the same but about different action :)The apparent, to me, calls to consider are X, pass,4♠, and 5♣. Either bid looks very likely to go down as we probably have 3 losers in 5♣ and the expected bad break in spades probably makes it unmakeable. So we are left with pass or X. I suspect the opps have at least an 8 card ♦ fit which does not bode well for setting 4♥ alot but nevertheless I will X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 4♠?? huh??? wouldn't you bid the same with KTxxxx Kxx Qx Ax ? I changed 3 (three) black cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 4♠?? huh??? wouldn't you bid the same with KTxxxx Kxx Qx Ax ? I changed 3 (three) black cards. It's not my system so I have to consider possible calls with in it. But I agree That I would bid 4♠ with the hand you provided . To me that seems to be a system limitation and given my hand and the bidding I expect partner to hold the 5♣ 4♠ 11-14 hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 5♣, you could anticipate opps bidding 5♥ by bidding 6♣ now I guess, but I don't like such anticipations cos they can be so wrong, and we have an easy double over 5♥ anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 5♣ looks normal but its easy to see how it might not work out with 4♥ and 5♣ both down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 In this problem I think one action is clearly the best and it's not close. My partner think the same but about different action ;)Overthinking at this juncture of the auction, and doing anything other than 5C, seems wrong. Something else might have worked out "best", but I don't think it can be best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I consider this to be a problem about what to do over 5♥. 5♣ at this point in the auction seems clear, whether it is the winning call or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 After bidding 5♣, in what way would double of 5♥ not be completely obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I'll also bid 5♣ here and will X 5♥ if the opps bid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 IMO 5♣ = 10, _P = 5, _X = 2. Whether it works or not, 5♣ is more likely to keep partner happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 After bidding 5♣, in what way would double of 5♥ not be completely obvious? I didn't say that it wasn't completely obvious. But it is also completely obvious that one should bid 5♣ at this point in the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 What's my key-ask? I'll try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 What's my key-ask? I'll try that. be glad there isn't one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 After bidding 5♣, in what way would double of 5♥ not be completely obvious? I didn't say that it wasn't completely obvious. But it is also completely obvious that one should bid 5♣ at this point in the auction. Yes it is 100% obvious to double over 5♥, but it is even more 100% obvious to bid 5♣ now. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted December 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 THanks all for the answers. It seems the problem was too simple :)Actual layout was : [hv=d=w&v=n&n=saqjht4dk7cqj9764&w=s9875432hj7dj96ck&e=shaq6532dat8542c5&s=skt6hk98dq3cat832]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Both 5C and 4H were making. We played 4H doubled :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 THanks all for the answers. It seems the problem was too simple :)Actual layout was : [hv=d=w&v=n&n=saqjht4dk7cqj9764&w=s9875432hj7dj96ck&e=shaq6532dat8542c5&s=skt6hk98dq3cat832]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Both 5C and 4H were making. We played 4H doubled :-) East is going to sell out to 5♣ w/r with a 6-6? I'll bet no :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 X. Given that I am fairly bal. I would go with X, ... T/O or optional,if I hear 4S, I will bid 5C. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 you could get your ♥K ruffed in 5♣, but the odds are that it is PARD, of which we know at least 6 cards, who ruffs :) so I'm joining the 5♣ bandwagon. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Double could work but so what, it's a total guess and you have 5!!!! card support! Bid 5♣. Sometimes you even get to double 5♥ instead. If only you had waited a few days before posting this I could have called it prediction of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Lucky partner didn't have S-AQJx H-4 D-Ax C-QJ9764 when 6C is on C:1-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 yep usually when partner has a maximum and then you turn a doubleton in a singleton, his hand gets better by a trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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