rogerclee Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 w/r imps void AKT9xx AKQ8xx Q 4S P ? Partner is me, who opens 4M on an extremely wide range of hands (some 13s with 7 spades). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 I would pass and don't find it to be particularly close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dangerous to count more than 2 cover cards for AKQ. My four tricks and partner's six or so at these colors add up to... making four. At r/w there is some chance I would go on but the clubs are scary (if we were 1-5-6-1, I'd bid six at r/w, make some sort of inquiry at equal, and still pass at w/r.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Pass is pretty obvious - at least to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 I'm tempted to bid 6♦. If I bid 5♥ and then 6♦, it'll be hard for partner to pass when it's right. Screw it, I bid 6♦. Especially if my partner is a girl. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 I can see hands where 6♦ makes and 4♠ go down, so passing is not so obvious, we might lose all of partner's clubs don't you see? its not like when we have singleton trump and singleton club at all. first position at this vulnerability, anything can be right. I'd bid 5♦ if it was natural (there was an old thread where this auction happened in top bridge and 5♦ bidder had ♦KQJ10xxxxx if I remember correctly, but most of us took it as a cue) since I think it will be a better game. Ok, lets make some math: I think 6♦ makes 30% of the time, and 4♠ makes 80%, 920*30= 276, 420*80 = 336, seems like 4♠ scores better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Ok, lets make some math: I think 6♦ makes 30% of the time, and 4♠ makes 80%, 920*30= 276, 420*80 = 336, seems like 4♠ scores better. Obviously your math should be expected IMPs, not points. But my math goes like this: I get dealt a hand that is cold for slam opposite most balanced yarbs 3 or 4 times in my life. I just got dealt one. I bid slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Ok, lets make some math: I think 6♦ makes 30% of the time, and 4♠ makes 80%, 920*30= 276, 420*80 = 336, seems like 4♠ scores better. Obviously your math should be expected IMPs, not points. But my math goes like this: I get dealt a hand that is cold for slam opposite most balanced yarbs 3 or 4 times in my life. I just got dealt one. I bid slam. Here is a secret that you might want to know. Partner is not balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Definitely pass. If I could show both suits I might consider slam in whichever partner has better support for (or might not), but just guessing a suit for slam is a total crapshoot. And one in which I believe it's clear the odds are stacked against you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Pass. You basically pay the price for your wideranging 4S bids.Playing with my regular p, I would pass in a second, butwe have fairly tight agreements. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I'd bid 6♦, given the loose preempting style. The fact that 4♠ will go down fairly often means that I don't need great odds for 6♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggieb Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Maybe this is a stupid question - what is 5N? I've never bid GSF in my life before, but it can be useful in this auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Maybe this is a stupid question - what is 5N? I've never bid GSF in my life before, but it can be useful in this auction. obv GSF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Ok, lets make some math: I think 6♦ makes 30% of the time, and 4♠ makes 80%, 920*30= 276, 420*80 = 336, seems like 4♠ scores better. Obviously your math should be expected IMPs, not points. ugh? There is a bunch of clubs somewhere, and partner might have solid spades, there is no way to aproximate the contract at the other room. I'd stick with my point calculation thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 So give us the damn hand already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Blackwood would be nice if we were 1-6-6-0 or 0-6-6-A♣ :-) especially if playing 5♣ as 0 keycards.Not here though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Screw it, I bid 6♦. Especially if my partner is a girl. :) Be sure to make it or you'll look silly and ruin your chances :) gals don't like reckless bids even when they work, let alone when they don't lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWM Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 I'm tempted to bid 6♦. If I bid 5♥ and then 6♦, it'll be hard for partner to pass when it's right. Screw it, I bid 6♦. Especially if my partner is a girl. :)Its a clear cut 4NT if P is a girl got to get the NT bid in before the rules are forgotten. Should also say if one of the diamond X's is the 7, its all important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyhung Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 You know, after the recent "Why play in the Reisinger?" thread that eventually morphed into "Why are women not playing in high-level bridge?" I am wondering whether this thread is exhibit A for the prosecution. I do have a sense of humor, but I don't quite see the benefit of a locker-room-mentality environment. Am I being too sensitive here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWM Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Sorry if you took offence, I merery mentioned an ongoing joke that I have seen quoted in several high quality bridge books. Although I have discussed bridge in the locker room I cannot remember if we have discussed the ability of females to play in NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 The comment in question was made contemporaneously with the thread you cite and was obviously a joke referencing that thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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