jonottawa Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Partner's pass of 5♥ is gross. In fact, his whole auction is horrible. 1D-1H5N-7H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 From first reading and without reading any of the other posts I would have chosen 6H over 5C. In my mind, the second bid over 4H shows a mountain of a hand I I have way too much to not bid slam. After all, I could have held: xxx, Jxxx, xxx, KQx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Partner's pass of 5♥ is gross. In fact, his whole auction is horrible. 1D-1H5N-7H Wow I disagree. Partner showed a huge hand, if we bid 5♥ he should pass and be glad he got the opportunity to find out slam would be bad. Slam is often not good. There are holes in both majors, there may not even be an entry to finesse hearts, and if we have to ruff a diamond to set them up and then draw trump we won't even be able to pitch a spade and ruff one. Think of it this way. Several people (who I agree with since I'm one of them) tried for a grand slam or at least wanted to after the 5♣ bid, and of course partner would have accepted that try. That means his hand is within the range of what he showed. So if we don't even try for a small slam with 5♦ opposite that range, then he is making a really bad bid to overrule us. Btw, if you respond 5NT do you have methods to distinguish between Kxxx(x), Kxxxxx, and Qxxxx(x), where you only want to be in 7 opposite one of them? The only other thing I can see partner doing is opening 2♣ if he doesn't have to rebid 3♦. Like if playing the method where a 3 major rebid shows that major with longer diamonds, this could be the auction opposite the actual hand.2♣ 2♦3♠ 3NT4♥ 7♥! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 This hand came up during a bidding session with my regular p. You hold in 2nd seat, being red vs. green Q96 KQ75 97 J1062The opponents pass through out, you play a system similar to standard american, although with a weak NT (but this wont play a role).Pass - 1D1H - 4C (1)4H - 5C (2)???(1) splinter(2) a void, not exclusion key cardYour bid, and why? IMO 6♥ = 10, 5N = 7, _P = 5, 7♥ = 3.Partner should have at least ♠ KJ ♥Axxxx ♦AKxxxx ♣ - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Partner's pass of 5♥ is gross. In fact, his whole auction is horrible. 1D-1H5N-7H ... Btw, if you respond 5NT do you have methods to distinguish between Kxxx(x), Kxxxxx, and Qxxxx(x), where you only want to be in 7 opposite one of them? I try not to play for pard to have the magic hand. I also try not to play for pard to have the hand from hell. If you want to give pard headaches, be my guest, that's not my style. If all I need from pard is a Q in the suit he bid to make slam playable, I'm allowed to play him for that. It drives me nuts when I think partners have a close decision and are asking me to weigh in when in reality all they're worried about is that I have some incredibly unlikely 'nightmare hand'. Somehow I'm supposed to guess which. I think B/I especially should be encouraged to keep their auctions simple. I think my auction fits the bill and gets you to the right spot the vast majority of the time. It's also fun/hot. If I had exclusion available and agreements on Q ask after exclusion, sure, that would be better, in that you could find the grand opposite the k6th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 I try not to play for pard to have the magic hand. I also try not to play for pard to have the hand from hell.I'm not playing him for either, or for anything in particular. I'm telling him what I have and putting him in a position to tell me what he has so no one has to play anyone for anything. I think B/I especially should be encouraged to keep their auctions simple. I think my auction fits the bill and gets you to the right spot the vast majority of the time. It's also fun/hot.On that I agree. It's very fair to say B/I should be practical and not go into some difficult auction. But that doesn't mesh with you saying opener bid horribly, which he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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