OleBerg Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I was given quite some heat from my partner after this one. He found that the right bid was 110% obvious. Here goes: You are playing a random game at BBO: [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sqjxxhkd9xxxcaqxx]133|100|[/hv] 1♣ - (2♣*) - 2♠ - (Pass)3♠ - (Pass) - 3NT - (Pass)??? 2♣ is alerted, but when you prompt, you get no reply. You don't know any of your opponents, but all three profiles says "Expert", and so does your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 2♠ should be natural so I'm getting to 4. Of course 2♣* could be Michael's and yes 9 tricks are less than 10 but wht didn't partner pass 2♣ or bid NT before? I bid 4♠ just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 4S, wtp ..., but dont mind not a wtp. As it is, we have a 9 card fit in spades, we play spades.I was thinking about 4C / 4H, 4C being the better bid, butI have min. I wonder, what the add. 10% mean for being certain to know the correct bid, in the good old times, there was a phenomencalled overflow, pos. numbers too big would show up as neg.numbers. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I was given quite some heat from my partner after this one. He found that the right bid was 110% obvious. Here goes: You are playing a random game at BBO: <!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> South </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> None </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> Unknown </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> QJxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> K </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> 9xxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> AQxx </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end --> 1♣ - (2♣*) - 2♠ - (Pass)3♠ - (Pass) - 3NT - (Pass)??? 2♣ is alerted, but when you prompt, you get no reply. You don't know any of your opponents, but all three profiles says "Expert", and so does your own. I do not bid until I know what 2c is .... I go get a drink...if need be a second drink...bridge is fun. 110% obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I agree with Mike. I wait till I know what 2C is. If you force me to bid, I bid 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I agree with Mike too. I done it before and had been kicked for my inquiry or my failure to bid. But lets say that 2 club was Michaels. If partner wanted to play 3 NT despite a spade fit, he should have bid it. So 3 NT in this case is not natural or at least a choice of game, depending on my hand. If 2 club was natural, I doubt that partner has enough clubs to have a stopper, so 3 NT again is not natural. My obvious choice would be 4 club. If partner intended 3 NT as serious, I owe him a cuebid. If he intended 3 NT as choice of game, I still go in direction of 4 Spade- with the slightly risk that he will bid 5 club now. Given the choices you thought about, I would try 4 Spade wtp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I agree with Mike but eventually I assume it is michaels and pass 3NT. If it is not Michaels I ask for a redeal, complain about the opponents failure to alert, add notes about both opponents and if necessary leave the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I pass 3N. But I have been known to bid 1S as a feeler for S-stop or lead inhibitor. I'll let my partner do that also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 If 2♣ shows the majors, then 2♠ is likely either a constructive bid in one of the minors or stopper showing, right? With both majors stopped and a desire to play NT, responder could have started with 2N or 3N. I don't know whether partner has clubs, diamonds or a spade stopper and no heart stopper, but whatever it is, it seems wrong to pass 3N. But, pulling to 4S would also seem wrong; I'd pull to 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 why did you bid 3♠? Edit: The question shouldn't be "what do i do now?" The question is "what does 2♠ mean given all the information you're lacking" When we answer that question, the rest of the auction becomes easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I do not act until I know what 2♣ is. If 2♣ is Michaels, then 2♠ is a strong hand with diamonds. If 2♣ is natural, then 2♠ is natural. I am certainly bidding 4♠ if 2♣ was natural. If 2♣ was Michaels, implying that 2♠ showed diamonds, I am going to raise diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I do not act until I know what 2♣ is. If 2♣ is Michaels, then 2♠ is a strong hand with diamonds. If 2♣ is natural, then 2♠ is natural. I am certainly bidding 4♠ if 2♣ was natural. If 2♣ was Michaels, implying that 2♠ showed diamonds, I am going to raise diamonds. Or, 2♠ is stopper showing. I vote not to participate in dissecting these conundrums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I'd pass. This seems normal in a Michaels auction. If this isn't a Michaels auction, this might work out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Obviously bidding 4♠ is not the right strategy, bid 4♦ in that case since if partner has spades he will go back (you already bid a NF 3♠) but partner may have taken 2♣ as majors and meant the higher cuebid as diamonds. Making all sorts of slam tries for diamonds would probably not be succesful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 quantum bridge when will the wavefunction collapse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 I definitely would not bid without an explanation but this may not help much if partner is bidding without the explanation. Probably I bid 4♦. If partner really has spades he will return to 4♠. If partner's 2♠ shows diamonds I need to support them through there's a slight risk that 3NT makes and 5♦ doesn't. I would have considered 3♦ a good option last time. If partner is just looking for stoppers then surely we have a heart problem in 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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