forcing, DBL?

[kgr]

[hv=d=n&v=n&s=skxxxhqxdqxxcqtxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

1♥-(1NT!)-DBL-(2♦)

Pass-(Pass)-??

 

1NT=both minors, can be 4-4 is some points.

DBL=penalty oriented for one of the minors

 

What do you bid (Pass is probably not allowed?)

What is the max nbr of ♦'s partner can have, Should my 1st DBL promise at least eg 3c in both suits or is one good suit, and hoping partner has the other, enough?

(I don't remember the exact hand I had, but didn't feel very comfortable with 9 pts and 3c♦)

[jdonn]

2♥ wtp? We are lucky to have a doubleton heart to come back to.

[Fluffy]

yep, 2♥ I don't try for a penalty at the 2 level when we have a fit. So partner should be warned.

[lamford]

I think bidding anything other than Pass is completely bonkers. You have nothing special for your action to date, and hearts rate to be 5-2-2-4 or even 5-1-2-5 round the table. Why on earth do you want to bid 2H at IMPs?

[Hanoi5]

Why on earth do you want to bid 2H at IMPs?

 

'Cause you'd rather compete than let them play at an easy contract?

[gwnn]

I think bidding anything other than Pass is completely bonkers. You have nothing special for your action to date, and hearts rate to be 5-2-2-4 or even 5-1-2-5 round the table. Why on earth do you want to bid 2H at IMPs?

because opener's pass might be forcing, like 1y-x-xx sets up a forcing pass for most people (how forcing depends on agreement).

[aguahombre]

double was right, and might have been 2-4 in the minors --but most likely was showing what you had, without or without more strength. Partner chose not to double 2D because he looked at his hand and chose pass. 2H is right, now. Pass would be bonkers.

 

edit: answer to other question --he could have 3 diamonds, but oh, well.

[Vilgan]

2♥ wtp?

[Codo]

So you had really been ready to punish 2 Club with this hand?

 

You were really looking for

 

1♥ (1NT) X (2♣)

pass (pass) X

 

Or worse for:

1♥ (1NT) X (pass)

pass (2 Club) x?

 

I feel very lucky that I do not need to play 2 Club X. What to do now depends on my meta agreements. To me we are in a forcing situation and I bid 2 Heart.

[gnasher]

For most people partner's pass would be forcing. Bidding is unattractive, but so is passing in a forcing situation that I created.

 

The problem occurred on the previous round. Double of 1NT was silly with such a poor hand. When you're considering a marginal action, it's a good idea to consider whether you'll be able to handle the likely continuations. If you can't, you should choose something different.

[peachy]

After the initial Dbl, we cannot now Pass because partner's Pass was forcing (created by my Dbl) . He did not Dbl 2D and left the decision to me so I will bid 2H since I cannot Dbl 2D either.

[jonottawa]

This auction is forcing. My double was normal aggressive. I have no qualms about bidding 2♥ now, which tends to show almost exactly what I have (pard would expect a 10 count and a doubleton.) If bidding turns +50 into -50, I can only hope that somehow we can overcome this huge adverse swing on a later board.

[lamford]

For most people partner's pass would be forcing. Bidding is unattractive, but so is passing in a forcing situation that I created.

 

The problem occurred on the previous round. Double of 1NT was silly with such a poor hand.

I agree that it is better to play pass as forcing here, but only because the unusual 1NT gives you more room than normal. I think that playing 1H - (2NT) - X - (3D) - Pass as forcing gives you more problems than it gains.

 

Gnasher hits the nail on the head: As the rustic said to the motorist asking directions: "I wouldn't start from here".

[kgr]

Thanks all.

..Arriving here my first DBL didn't feel ok...so I Dbled a 2nd time :rolleyes:

I was lucky that partner had a 3c♦ and 2♦! did go -2.