Fluffy Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 ♠8xx♥6xxx♦KJx♣AJ10 1NT-2♣2♥-2NT*(promises 4 spades)3NT-ps This was MPs, but fel free to coment if IMPs would change your decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 This feels like a poll after MI about the promise of 4S. So, I will be the one who leads the spade 8 regardless of the information given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Yeah you have to lead the S8, what else could you even consider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I would lead a heart, hoping that this gives nothing away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Yeah you have to lead the S8, what else could you even consider? Well, you do give up the second bite of the apple :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I would lead a heart, hoping that this gives nothing away. A heart has no chance of setting anything up either even though it is less likely to blow a trick than a spade. Meh I don't like it but I guess it's not that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 ♠8 -- hopefully declarer will infer ♥ length in my hand and take a two way ♥Q finesse into pard's hand :rolleyes:.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suokko Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 vs mini NT ♦ J would be sexy lead. Assuming strong I just lead a ♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I led a ♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I'd lead a spade. They are pushing for a game and the wrong minor could be fatal. A heart doesn't feel very productive as it gives declarer an additional entry to lead up to his four card holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 If they all have their bids, they have around 8-9 HCPS opposite 16-17, so partner has around 6 HCPs. IT seems to be that the suits are breaking well for declarer, so I would go for an active lead and try the jack of club.If partner really has "good" spades, I will be there to lead them later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I'd lead a ♥ in MP's, trying not to give anything away. In imps it's not as easy because leading a ♥ probably won't defeat the contract. I might try a suicidal ♦K, or the more obvious ♠, depending on the state of the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I'd lead a heart at any form of scoring. That isn't entirely passive: maybe the suit is distributed109 QJ7AK85 A spade lead may butcher partner's holding in the suit, and I don't see how it is supposed to gain. Partner is unlikely to have both sufficient spade strength and sufficient entries to set up a long card in the suit. My minor-suit holdings mean I'll be in again several times, so if it's just a matter of setting up high-card winners in spades there's no hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 My minor-suit holdings mean I'll be in again several times, so if it's just a matter of setting up high-card winners in spades there's no hurry. Obviously I am the only one who disagrees with this. If they have a lot of their points in their long suits, they will run 8 major tricks before they try any minor at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Anyone who thinks they have nailed this lead is either using IM with a Kib watching declarer or is just delusional. The ♥ leaders have uniformly not realized they might be leading into a declarer's 5 card suit and given your spots that really rates to suck. On the other hand there is nothing that doesn't say partner can't hold ♥KQJTx. The spade leaders might be setting up declarer's ♠ suit for 4 tricks but on the other hand he might hold KJT9 over dummy's AQxx. If you want a guarantee on the opening lead I suggest you call Lloyd's of London for an insurance policy. However the premiums may not be cheap relatively speaking :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 yes, Pool, but we did embarass ourselves with a lead choice, for whatever dumb reason we could come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Anyone who thinks they have nailed this lead is either using IM with a Kib watching declarer or is just delusional. The ♥ leaders have uniformly not realized they might be leading into a declarer's 5 card suit and given your spots that really rates to suck. On the other hand there is nothing that doesn't say partner can't hold ♥KQJTx. The spade leaders might be setting up declarer's ♠ suit for 4 tricks but on the other hand he might hold KJT9 over dummy's AQxx. If you want a guarantee on the opening lead I suggest you call Lloyd's of London for an insurance policy. However the premiums may not be cheap relatively speaking :(Yes Mr Fish, I have carefully read your post twice and still can't quite find your recommended lead! But even though you don't give an answer you have made an erroneous statement ("The ♥ leaders have uniformly not realized they might be leading into a declarer's 5 card suit ") and a dubious claim ("On the other hand there is nothing that doesn't say partner can't hold ♥KQJTx."). Not sure that many LHOs would bid this way with a void in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Hope not many expectations, but the lead didn't matter at all, I think a minor lead was blowing an overtrick but don't remember wich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Anyone who thinks they have nailed this lead is either using IM with a Kib watching declarer or is just delusional. The ♥ leaders have uniformly not realized they might be leading into a declarer's 5 card suit and given your spots that really rates to suck. On the other hand there is nothing that doesn't say partner can't hold ♥KQJTx. The spade leaders might be setting up declarer's ♠ suit for 4 tricks but on the other hand he might hold KJT9 over dummy's AQxx. If you want a guarantee on the opening lead I suggest you call Lloyd's of London for an insurance policy. However the premiums may not be cheap relatively speaking :lol:Yes Mr Fish, I have carefully read your post twice and still can't quite find your recommended lead! But even though you don't give an answer you have made an erroneous statement ("The ♥ leaders have uniformly not realized they might be leading into a declarer's 5 card suit ") and a dubious claim ("On the other hand there is nothing that doesn't say partner can't hold ♥KQJTx."). Not sure that many LHOs would bid this way with a void in hearts. well I voted for a ♠ but without any great hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Hope not many expectations, but the lead didn't matter at all, I think a minor lead was blowing an overtrick but don't remember wich. This was the worst lead of all time! What was the lead? Damned if I can remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 That's how I read it as well jon but then I realized Fluffy was referring to the horrors of the decision for the leader (no lead looked good for him), not how bad/ridiculous the decision really was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 You're smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 hey, I checked again, I was wrong, partner had ♦Q109xx, and declarer couldn't hold more than once with ♦Ax. You can get one down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 I would lead king of diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 I would lead king of diamonds. Great lead :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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