shanbari Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 team imps, both white partner open 1C, RHO weak 2H. 1C (2H*) ?? ♥:K♥K8XXX♦QX♣QJ10XX what choice, and reason ? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 3♣ because I am downgrading because of the looming unplayability of this hand. Anyway 1m-(2M)-3m is a little stronger than 1H-(2S)-3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I pass hoping partner will double and get some 300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Trying for a penalty is dangerous. If RHO has 6H, P will have at least 4C and will happily reopen with Axxx -- Axxx AKxxx Axxx x Axxx Axxx and while you might beat 2H, you might be better off in a game/slam in clubs. So I think this hand needs to raise clubs ( no strong feelings about LR vs GF ) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I gotta say it's true that passing for penalties might be dangerous. The main issue is the 5-card club suit, for we have that known fit which might be a dangerous asset in a heart contract. So I guess it's eithar pass or 3♥ at teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I will settle for 3♣ as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Another 3C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 :) 3♥ unless we open really light hands. A favorite for slam opposite pard's minimum: AxxxxAxxA10xxx A 5♣ game should have some play opposite most hands, and who says 3♥ forces beyond 4♣ if pard is really wretched? Of course, 3♣ is a reasonably close second for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 3NT. Have the H-stop and supporting quacks/stops. Warn partner of some H-values when he has a shapely 6C try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Whatever your inv+ club raise is, use it. Normal is 3 ♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 People play 3C as a limit raise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suokko Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 People play 3C as a limit raise? Depends on what my partner wants ;) I can play both ways. But I bet over half would bid 3♣ with competitive hand and with this invitational hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 it can be played as 8-10 and to GF with 11 or something. what else is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanbari Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 thanks for reply, as most experts picked 3C. i jump 4C to invite at table; the drawback is bypass 3N, however i argue that possible 5-5 club fit and both heart and spade singleton argues for suit contract. is it valid point or the value is too soft, which is still better for NT contract ? this is whole hand . ♥ AQJX ♥ X ♦ AXX ♣ AKXXX . ♥ K ♥ K8XXX ♦ QX ♣ QJ10XX ;;1C (2H) ?? 1) 2N, then both have to try hard to find club fit.1C (2H) 2N3S 4C here 4C only promise 3 club as i understand.4D 4S (don't cue H)6Cnot easy for me to reach 6C 2) 3C, as long as south cuebid S, 6C is possible1C (2H) 3C3D 3S..6C 3) PASS, it won't lead to good result when 9-10 club fit. (unless vulerability changes) 1C (2H) PX ?? touch choice now, pass again ? .. only my 2 cents, feel free to comment, thanks. shan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 2N ... 3N is more likely than 5♣. Opps have a ♠ fit AND my spots suck so trapping is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilgan Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I voted 2N. 3♣ seems like another good bid, I guess I'm worried it might put partner into a weird situation where he decides to pass which I really don't want to see. pass seems pretty ludicrous and 3♥ seems to completely rule out 3NT which seems like a bad idea imo. Who said partner can't have something like AQxx x Jxx AKxxx. 5 clubs will be very unhappy whereas 3NT will be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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