haver Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 1 club (partner) - pass - ? (you) what do u bid with these hands: a.) K 10 x x x10 x xx x xx x b.)K 10 x x xx x x xx x x x c.)K J 10 x x 10 x xx x xx x d.)K 10 x x xJ 10 x J x xx x e.)K J x x x10 x x xJ x x x Does vulnerablity make any diff. if yes, then what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Pass with a, b, and c, bid 1S with d and e. 1S is borderline with c, particularly when NV. I wouldn't do it this morning, but some other morning.... :blink: Slightly off-topic, with my regular pd (but not with anyone else), in the sequencesP-1C/1D/1H-?and1C/1D/1H-?I would bid 2S when NV with all 5 hands (and pass when vul with all 5). Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 I'm not expecting my posting to be particularly, popular but... I have rarely gotten bad results when a 1C opening gets passed out.I'd double with E, but otherwise I'm passing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 I'm not expecting my posting to be particularly, popular but... I have rarely gotten bad results when a 1C opening gets passed out.I'd double with E, but otherwise I'm passing... Your partner is the open to open 1c.1c (pass) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Id bid just the same as said before:Pass with a, b, and c, bid 1S with d and e.I wouldnt critisize my partner for bidding 1s with c, it might be better for this hand but imo bad for other hands (if i pass this then when i bid 1sp partner know i got more).If we play limited opening (even 12-17) 1h could work as well ( but imo this bid must be alerted) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 I'm not expecting my posting to be particularly, popular but... I have rarely gotten bad results when a 1C opening gets passed out.I'd double with E, but otherwise I'm passing... Your partner is the open to open 1c.1c (pass) ? URK!! Sorry about that I'll bid 1S throughout. As A corrlary to an earlier post, I have rarely gotten a good score when I pass partner out in 1C... Tempting to bid 1D with B, but this ill work-out badly if partner has a balanced hand. (Partner should bypass a 4 card major with a minimum strength balanced hand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 I'll bid 1S throughout. I didnt have any doubt that you would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 This is a matter of principle, I believe you should have a system and stick with it, if the system say 1s= 6 hcp then it should be a hand worth 6 hcp (5 with a 5 card is fine) you can stretch here and there but not too much, what im consurn about is not this board result, but the next board, because when you pass with this , it mean that when you bid you got more.An example hand i had yestedayQJ987xxxx10xxxAll vul and I was first to bid, I know i will most likely get a better result with this hand by opening it (2sp or 3sp or 4sp), and like everyone i like to bid and play,but i passed, because next time when i open 3sp i want my partner to know i'v got more.The result was sad, 4sp bid and makes at many tables sometimes doubled, and i got -130 for 4c they made, but i dont think i'll change my ways, and hopefully my partners will have enough self displain to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 i'm with richard, i'd bid 1♠ on every auction ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 An example hand i had yestedayQJ987xxxx10xxxAll vul and I was first to bid, I know i will most likely get a better result with this hand by opening it (2sp or 3sp or 4sp), and like everyone i like to bid and play the 'old' way (down 2 if vul, 3 if not) shows 7 losers for -500, if allowed to play 2♠, and if it's doubled... i don't know the feeling on this rule anymore, things have changed... but it seems sound to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 "the 'old' way (down 2 if vul, 3 if not) shows 7 losers for -500, if allowed to play 2♠, and if it's doubled... i don't know the feeling on this rule anymore, things have changed... but it seems sound to me" Agree when vul, not when NV. My rule of thumb is - do you want to play the hand undoubled opposite a partner with nothing. I'm a lot more aggressive NV than the 'old' way, but not vul. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 Pass on all except E, where I'll bid 1♠. Mike ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbreath Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 my 2p worth.. i think it's absolutely clear-cut to bid 1S on c,d,e and would not criticise p for bidding 1S on a,b .. not bidding on c,d,e is going agin the tide .. ie: you are to likely to generate a 'swing' .. (so maybe ok if that's your intention)Rgds Dog :D furnulum pani nolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 I used to play Modified Flannery after 1♣ opening. No laughing please, you know who you are hehehe.So on hand B I could have bid 2♦ showing 5♠ and 4♥ with 3-5 HCP.And 2♥ would have shown 5♥ and 4♠ with 3-5 HCP. Mike :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 pass, pass, 1♠, 1♠, 1♠ Don't like to bid with only 3HCP, p can shoot too high after that ;) Vulnerability doesn't matter for me. In imps however, I'll probably bid with all 5 hands :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 In imps however, I'll probably bid with all 5 hands ;) Why ? What in imp make it better to bid here ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 I agree, why you want to bid on all hands in Imps?Wanna try for a bigger number to lose ?Or is this part of the "Bid at all Cost" strategy ? Mike ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Why? In imps, you take some risks to reach sharp games, so this is my risk... Nice 5 card suit, get it on :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted July 5, 2004 Report Share Posted July 5, 2004 Why? In imps, you take some risks to reach sharp slams, so this is my risk... Nice 5 card suit, get it on :D You think you will miss a slam if you pass a 3 hcp hand ? Imo slams are your concern that passing this 3 hcp is better, because if your 1sp will show partner a real 6 hcp , the chances of you to reach the slam (when you got the 6 hcp) are higher. I actually i think bidding 1sp with the 3 hcp at MP, then at imp, because at mp 1c all pass might get you a bad score of 90 instead of 140. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Woopsy, typo alert! I meant "sharp GAMES" ofcourse :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 The rule I apply is this 1: are you gonna play game in partner has a 18-19 balanced hand?. If the answer is no, then pass, otherwise bid. For those problems I pass a, and b, bid 1SP] c, d & e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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