GF or invitational raise?

[suokko]

To me it looks like here is going some wrong assumptions. For me responder has as big chance as opener to have extras so auction has to stay 2-way also cue biding with (non)serious 3NT and LTTC gives the best slam biding tools to limit strength and location of honors same time.

 

3♣ extras

3♦ minimum

3♥ 10+ cards in M+♣

3♠ 10+ cards in M+♦

3NT 10+ cards in M+OM

4♣ void

4♦ void

4OM void in OM and extras

4M void in OM and minimum

 

3♣:

3♦ asking shortness

3♥-3NT 5+ side suit

4 level cues strong SI+

 

3♣-3♦:

3♥ none, Do you have shortness?

3♠ OM

3NT ♦

4♣ ♣

 

3♦:

3♥ shortness asking

3♠+ cue biding

[nigel_k]

IMO it's better for the unbalanced hand to describe and if anyone is 'captain' it's the balanced hand.

 

After a 1NT opening for example, you could use relays to complete the description of opener's hand but it just doesn't work that well because you honour location is so important and you don't discover that until it's too late. It's better for the unbalanced responder to start describing even when opener is as well defined as a 1NT opening.

 

I would suggest two things:

 

1) There should be different approaches for a balanced responder compared to an unbalanced one. So opener describe only when responder is balanced.

 

2) I think there is merit in a split range, e.g. 1S-2NT is say 10-11 or 15+ and 1S-3NT is 12-14. The downside is being a level higher on some fairly common hand types, but you can use all the space to describe shape as values are already known.

[whereagles]

This hasn't anything to do with relays, people. Anyway I give up... lol