raist Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 ALL VUL you are a passed handpartner overcalls LHO's 1C opening with 1H, RHO passes you hold Qx KTxx Jxx T9xx do you raise?if you do, what do you raise? i am really not sure what is the best action here so some reasons/analysis will be very helpful thanks on the one hand you have 4 card support on the other hand you have minimal and soft values, with little/no shape does it make a difference whether you are a passed hand or no? additional info:overcalling style is generally sound at these colours (you can expect 10 hcp)if you have any special raising methods please do tell(i play 3H here is 0-6, 4cH and 3D as a mixed raise) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 I do raise partner. Exactly how I raise him depends on exact methods and overcalling style I guess. But I would never ever ever pass. In the words of another poster here, if a gun would be held to my head not to raise my partner, I would take the bullet before I'd pass. The most obvious reason why pass is very bad is that opps will have an easier auction and we will have a harder auction if we pass. Another reason is that if I pass, partner will have no idea what's going on from now on in the bidding or in defence. I would like to help my partner. As a general rule, try to find any excuse to raise partner, especially with 4 card support. Anyway I would bid 2♥. I would need a little more for 3♦ and the ♠Q in hearts for 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 You have very good support and there is no reason to think that ♠Q and ♦J are useless. I think 2♥ is enough vulnerable. 3♥ if nonvul. As a passed hand you have almost enough to a 2♣ (or 3♣) constructive raise but not quite. A psychic 1♠ could also work. Anything is better than pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Raise! I bid 2♥ at any vul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Of course you raise to 2H! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Looks like a 2♥ bid to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 ALL VUL you are a passed handpartner overcalls LHO's 1C opening with 1H, RHO passes you hold Qx KTxx Jxx T9xx do you raise?if you do, what do you raise? i am really not sure what is the best action here so some reasons/analysis will be very helpful thanks on the one hand you have 4 card support on the other hand you have minimal and soft values, with little/no shape does it make a difference whether you are a passed hand or no? additional info:overcalling style is generally sound at these colours (you can expect 10 hcp)if you have any special raising methods please do tell(i play 3H here is 0-6, 4cH and 3D as a mixed raise) jeez how many times do you have to say it SUPPORT W/SUPPORT :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Raise of course ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Frankly, I don't care if partner's overcalling style is sound or unsound. If you don't raise, then I don't know why you even bother with any overcalls at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I would bid 2H on this hand all positions all vulnerabilities, whether partner is passed or not. However I would never bid anything other than 2H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Hi, Raise. Since RHO passed, there is no big need to bid more than 2H. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 It wouldn't occur to me to bid only 2♥. This is a normal raise to 3♥. Imagine that you're opener with a 4225 17-count. Which raise would you like to hear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 I play 3♥ as preemptive in nature. Nothing about this hand makes me want to preempt at all. On that basis I don't see a reason to get too high vulnerable and go minus for no particularly good reason. We certainly have a different idea of normal here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Kid Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 2♥, not particularly keen on bidding 3♥ with a flat hand and soft values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 If partner bid 2♥ with that, I'd be fine with it. If partner bid 3♥ with that, I'd be fine with it. If partner did anything else with that, I wouldn't be fine with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 2♥ for me. Too good for a preemptive 3♥ raise, and too flat also. Not good enough for stronger actions. (Passing isn't an option.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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