Free Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Simple logic, have you ever talked about such bidding in your life? no: then it i natural, 5-5 strrong. Other simple logic: do you have to jump with maximum? no since it's GF already. So this jump is unusual => splinter... :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Simple logic, have you ever talked about such bidding in your life? no: then it i natural, 5-5 strrong. Hope your pd uses the same logic as you Fluffy :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 I think the arguement over if this is a picture bid with 5/5 in the reds and fair or better values, versus a splinter simply has to be a partnership agreement. Here is a hand from yesterday, where the expert commentators (well other than me) laughed at the possibility of a 3♦ splinter bid.... It seems to me that 2♥ rebid is horrible. A 2♠ rebid would need special agreement on possible stregth. That leaves 3♣ and 3♦ (if available for splinter). If you play 3♦ as splinter, would you use it here? [hv=d=e&v=e&n=sqj8ha2d64ckqt532&s=sak65hj9753dqca87]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Auction at talbe I kibitized.West North East South - - Pass 1♥ Pass 2♣ Pass 2♥ Pass 2NT Pass 3NT Pass Pass Pass 1/3 of the field played a very unsatisfactory, 3NT. Another group played in 4♥ asfter south choose to rebid 2♥ and was raised by north. Another 1/3 played in a wonderful matchpont contract of 4♠, easlily making five. And some played in 5♣ (6♣ makes on non-♥ lead). With a splinter 3♦, the trap 3NT will be missed, and there is no chance to stumble into a hopeless 4♥. Getting into 4♠ is not impossible. A 3♠ bid here by responder and a 4♠ raise should do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Here is a hand from yesterday, where the expert commentators (well other than me) laughed at the possibility of a 3♦ splinter bid.... It seems to me that 2♥ rebid is horrible. A 2♠ rebid would need special agreement on possible stregth. That leaves 3♣ and 3♦ (if available for splinter). If you play 3♦ as splinter, would you use it here? Dealer: East Vul: EW Scoring: IMP ♠ QJ8 ♥ A2 ♦ 64 ♣ KQT532 ♠ AK65 ♥ J9753 ♦ Q ♣ A87 Auction at talbe I kibitized.West North East South - - Pass 1♥ Pass 2♣ Pass 2♥ Pass 2NT Pass 3NT Pass Pass Pass Well, first I hope that they had a balanced GF notrump response available, so that 2♣ promises 5 clubs -- otherwise it's really ugly. Unless I can bid 2♠ with this strength, I just bid a simple 3♣. 3♦ has three downsides: the singleton is a queen, I prefer to have 4 trumps for a splinter, and I doubt I should encourage slam investigation with this ugly 14 points. This also seems to lead to 4♠ -- partner will try 3♠ which I should raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 on the hand ben posted, i've read where a 2S bid there is a reverse, and i've read where it isn't... i prefer to think it isn't, over a 2/1 game force... it's very possible that north bypassed 4 spades in order to bid a longer club suit with a game force hand.. i think south should rebid 2S, and unless my partner prohibits this bid it's the one i'll make at the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 8, 2004 Report Share Posted July 8, 2004 On the given hand you don´t have to play that awful 3NT at all after 2♥ rebid when playing 2/1: 1♥-2♣2♥-3♣3♠-........ now all bids lead to 5/6♣, included 4♥ wich for sure won´t be a good contract from opener´s perspective and therefore will till lead to 5/6♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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