bluecalm Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Hi all, I hold : AJTxx xx Qxx xxx Bidding : 2♦ (weak) - double - pass - 2♠pass - 3♦ - pass - ??? Now I have bid 3♠ hoping that partner will bid 3NT with ♦ stopper, cuebid with real monster and bid 4♠ with nothing special; To my surprise partner passed which was obviously not good for us. My question is : how do you play enemy suit after t/o double at this level ? Is it forcing to game ro just one round ? Same would apply in the bidding : 2♥ - double - pass - 2♠pass - 3♥ All thoughts/comments/info about your favourite or expert partnerthips agreements are welcome :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 2♠ shows a bad hand (I personally will jump here with an average 8 count), so I don't see why it really shocks you that 3♠ gets passed. 3♦ showed, depending on agreements, either a good hand, or a good hand without a ♦ stop, and all you could was retreat to your suit? Bottom Line: The cue is only a one round force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Yeah, partner typically has a 3424 with 18+ points. What else can he bid with such a hand? Bid 4♠, you haven't shown your 5th spade yet and your diamond holding is not good enough to bid 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 You've shown, what, 0-8 HCPs and 4+ spades? Given that, you're (practically) a monster. 3♠ told him you were at the low end of that range. 4♠ for me, too. 3♦ was a 1 round force. You could be so, so much worse than what you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Yeah, partner typically has a 3424 with 18+ points. What else can he bid with such a hand? I am not saying it's good or bad agreement but 3-4-2-4 18pc is not really a problem. Partner can just bid 3♠ invitational. I will bid 3nt with only 4spades and ♦stopped and if I don't have ♦ stopper then ♠ is the only game to play anyway; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Agree with Helene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Hi all, I hold : AJTxx xx Qxx xxx Bidding : 2♦ (weak) - double - pass - 2♠pass - 3♦ - pass - ??? Now I have bid 3♠ hoping that partner will bid 3NT with ♦ stopper, cuebid with real monster and bid 4♠ with nothing special; To my surprise partner passed which was obviously not good for us. My question is : how do you play enemy suit after t/o double at this level ? Is it forcing to game ro just one round ? Same would apply in the bidding : 2♥ - double - pass - 2♠pass - 3♥ All thoughts/comments/info about your favourite or expert partnerthips agreements are welcome :) to quote one of the more frequent posters "lol 4♠ obv" :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Yeah, partner typically has a 3424 with 18+ points. What else can he bid with such a hand? I am not saying it's good or bad agreement but 3-4-2-4 18pc is not really a problem. Partner can just bid 3♠ invitational. No. If you have a 0-count with 4-4 majors, you will bid 2♠ first (in order to anticipate partner's 3♦ bid), then partner bids 3♦ with his 3424 18-count, now you bid 3♥ and partner passes. 2♠-3♦3♥-pass. He will never (or almost never) raise your spades directly with 3-card support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Bid 4S instead of 3. Partner cannot see through the cards and you could easily have had a really bad hand and 4-card spades, instead of this maximum, for the 2S call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 And not to worry about pard having less than 3 spades. He had other bids available without 3-card support. 4S is clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 4♠. BTW, 3♠ doesn't even promise four :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 With 5 working points, despite the nice 5 card suit, 2 Spade was fine.But 3 Spade was a crime. Partner can have some possible hands for 3 Diamond, but 4 Spade cares for alll of them and shows what I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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